Did Martin vs Ortiz ruin Wilders resume?

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  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You literally have a photo of guy who was floored four times by Andy Ruiz, spit out his mouthpiece and quit over your username.

    And you're ripping a guy who WON and left his opponent bleeding and mumbling to people who weren't there.

    Try being a GLOBAL boxing fan. It's more fun than making excuses for homegrown quitters.
     
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  2. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Considering Ortiz age and inactivity I thought it was a good win and he showed that he is always dangerous with his power. Martin is underrated only because AJ destroyed him but really in today’s heavyweight landscape there is no shame in being destroyed by AJ. It comes back to a simple but true boxing term styles make fights.
     
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  3. Hurrikeen

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    Nothing we didn’t already know. Wilder was even getting schooled by the likes of Gerald Washington & Molina before catching them with Hail Mary’s.

    His best win is literally a guy who’s best win is Jennings and was getting battered pillar to post by Prince Charles Martin.
     
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  4. exocet76

    exocet76 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your guy was nearly KILLED by a jab...
    Just let that sink in.....visited The Shadowrealm off a jab....
     
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  5. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why do UK fans need to hype Joshua when there are so many talented UK heavyweights?
     
  6. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    They would have no reason to fight Ortiz in the first place
     
  7. Inglis_1

    Inglis_1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Eddie Hearn and his promotion skills, targeting fans of other sports that aren't usually big followers of boxing and making them believe that he's far greater than he is.
     
  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    If it ruined Wilder's then it ruined Fury's since wilder is Fury's 2nd best win.
     
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  9. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It did ruin both in my view.
    Both Fury and Wilder are overrated, people see Fury as the 2nd coming of Christ when hes only got 1 great win on his record and has a history of struggling with boxers he should never be struggling against.

    When it comes to wilder, we don't know how good he was as he only fought one very good boxer in his whole career
     
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  10. Unforgiven

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    I can't even get my head around how people could believe it effects Wilder's value at all.

    In the old days, people would have been giving CREDIT to Wilder, saying that his two KOs of Ortiz softened the old man up.
    He's ancient, and Wilder beat him brutally twice.
     
  11. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    Well i am a UK fan and i do not hype Joshua.

    Joshua has made the best out of the opportunities he has been given, done the best with the ability he has, and earned well from it.

    When he loses he does not blame others, he puts the hard work in to win the rematch well he did for Ruiz, we wait to see if he can versus Usyk.

    That is no hype that is fact.

    Success breeds success, see if the hype as you call it still continues if Joshua cannot win the rematch against Usyk.
     
  12. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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    Prime Ortiz was better than Martin sure. But he was not that much better.

    Povetkin>Ortiz>Martin>Washington.
     
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  13. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Means nothing.... I mean, good grief....the ways a win is 'expected' means jack. Plus there's this thing called 'styles.....' you know the rest. This is just over-analyzation, which is about par for the board.
     
  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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  15. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    True. It was similar to Povetkin-Whyte: the crafty old man is clearly shot against a much younger, fresher and bigger opponent but he still had the power, skills and heart to pull out a brutal KO after getting dropped twice.
     
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