Did Martinez do enough to get into the Hall of Fame?

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  1. JeanGrey

    JeanGrey Active Member Full Member

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  2. Peril

    Peril The Scholar Full Member

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    He has 2 losses (legitimate), one when he was still green, another when he was already gray. As far as I am concerned, he is HoF worthy, given his credentials, skillset and willingness to face the best opposition.
     
  3. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    he has wins over...

    Barker
    Macklin
    Pavlik
    Dzinzuruk
    Chavez JR
    Williams
    x2 Richard Williams

    he didn't beat Murray, so i can't accept that.

    i can't put him in with so little. he has a good resume, but not one worthy of the Hall.
     
  4. Tancred

    Tancred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe not but he is going to get in less deserving people are already in there
     
  5. Kid Cincinnati

    Kid Cincinnati GOOD BOY NATION Full Member

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    Maybe not good enough for an American to make it in. But because the HOF strives to be international, there's a chance it might let him squeak in because he's from Argentina/Spain.
     
  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Looking at the big picture, I expect him to get in:

    1. True middleweight champions get in, historically.
    2. He's a hero in Argentina.
    3. He's a class act
    4. He beat Chavez Jr. in a big fight.
    5. He had international influence, beating the English guys.
    6. Knockout of the year against P. Will
     
  7. Twix

    Twix Chocolatey! Full Member

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    Very underrated fighter. Def HOF material.
     
  8. seansanashee

    seansanashee Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Stilt Skinner? Active Member Full Member

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    no but was a very good fighter. Williams and Pavlik etc not really HOF wins.
     
  10. Piece

    Piece Well-Known Member Full Member

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    At the end of the day, you gotta think, there was a time period where Martinez completely dominated the middleweight division. He took on all comers and easily beat them.

    He was unbeatable.

    And this was a small guy facing way bigger guys.

    Then when you look below, Mayweather said, "I'll fight the winner of Williams vs Martinez."

    Williams knocked him out hard. Round the same time Pacquiao knocked Hatton out hard I think.

    And Mayweather ran away like a lil bltch.

    So, you gotta put that on his resume too.
     
  11. The Akbar One

    The Akbar One Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Nope. Let's see, he beat a shopworn Pavlik, who had just had his soul taken by Hopkins. He then KO'd 147/154 pounder Paul Williams, and stopped 154 pounder Dzinziruk. He then fought real middleweight contenders, and struggled with unheralded, and previously unrated Darren Barker, Mathew Macklin, and Martin Murray, getting a gift decision at home against Murray. He beat Chavez Jr, but almost got KO'd at the end. He then got his arse handed to him by past it Miguel Cotto, a 154 pounder, who against meaningful opponents, had lost his last two fights. Sergio Martinez wouldn't have made it as a 90s middleweight. He may have been a contender but that is it. Guys like Darren Barker, Mathew Macklin, Dzinziruk, Williams etc., wouldn't have been top ten middleweight back then.
     
  12. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Well, they are, but those are the only wins he has that I could list as better than "good wins."
     
  13. hityounot

    hityounot Active Member Full Member

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    He was the champ for how long? The only guy to KO Williams and second to beat Pavlik. Beat the undefeated Dzinziruk, Barker and Chavez Jr. I don't know if that's good enough but I'd say yes.....
     
  14. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    He's somewhere less deserving than Pongsaklek Wonjongkam, that's for sure.
     
  15. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Wtf :patsch