Did Martinez do enough to get into the Hall of Fame?

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  1. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Yeah but he was more accomplished than Gatti ...On accomplishments alone Gatti doesn't deserve to go in over Martinez .
     
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  2. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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  3. shanahan14

    shanahan14 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Some of the worst logic I have ever read.

    - So let's take away 2 great wins. Pavlik has what, 2 losses himself? Williams was one of the most feared fighters in the game before Martinez slept him.

    - 4 year reign as MW champ

    - Gatti is inducted, so let's simplify the fact that he was in great fights, which overshadows the fact that he was a 2 weight champ and fought some top notch guys. Even if he shouldn't be inducted, don't contradict yourself by letting in other non-deserving people.
     
    shanahan14, Jun 19, 2014
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  4. bigbeatbaby

    bigbeatbaby Active Member Full Member

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    If you fill a stadium anywhere in the world as a champion then you should go into the hall of fame. its on fame and pulling power and not skills in my opinion.
     
    bigbeatbaby, Jun 19, 2014
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  5. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Ooh. Interesting.

    Taking the words literally... I guess it's an argument and is supported by some current fighters like Gatti and Braddock.
     
    Nonito Smoak, Jun 19, 2014
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  6. mafioso

    mafioso Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i agree with bigbeatbaby!gatti deserve to be there he was a HUGE draw :bbb
     
    mafioso, Jun 19, 2014
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  7. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You right, My bad.:lol:
     
    Manfred, Jun 19, 2014
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  8. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    yes, hopefully he'll get in. if he were british, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. we'd be having to defend against arguments saying he was the greatest middleweight ever.
     
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  9. Kevin Willis

    Kevin Willis Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    What the Hell: Let's just start letting anyone in....

    OH WAIT! I guess he's a shoe-in!!!
     
    Kevin Willis, Jun 19, 2014
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  10. Thread Stealer

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    Although fighters like Barry McGuigan, Arturo Gatti and Jess Willard are in the IBHOF, I don't think we should just put any fighters in because of that. If you feel the criteria is too lenient, and that these guys shouldn't be in the IBHOF, wouldn't it be better if they just didn't make those "mistakes" again?

    Martinez doesn't have a HOF resume, wasn't a "famous" fighter who brought a ton of attention to the sport (hall of FAME), and wasn't a great fighter. He was a good one who was fortunate to be in a **** era.

    Great story, seemingly a decent and likeable guy, but that hardly makes one worthy of the IBHOF
     
    Thread Stealer, Jun 20, 2014
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  11. DemolitionDan

    DemolitionDan ATG and HoF Full Member

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    No, I personally don't think he did enough, but I don't have a vote and the Hall of Fame has put in fighters less deserving. So, there you go...
     
    DemolitionDan, Jun 21, 2014
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  12. bigbeatbaby

    bigbeatbaby Active Member Full Member

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    Gatti was who I was thinking:good. I don't think its the best criteria but I don't hate it either
     
    bigbeatbaby, Jun 21, 2014
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  13. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just short. I'd love to say yes. But can't.
     
    des3995, Jun 21, 2014
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  14. shoe

    shoe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    hell no to sergio, and many that are in there shouldn't be.
     
    shoe, Jun 21, 2014
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