Did Mayweather Beat Better Versions Of DLH And Hatton Than Manny?

Respect? Because Pac earned it with the excitement he gave to the boxing fans all over the world while Floyd abandoned this sport. Loyalty begets respect. For this fight to happen which Floyd badly needed, he has to go to Pac's camp, not the other way around. Only Pac can gurantee Floyd the biggest money he can get today.

 

There is no question that teh De La Hoya and Hatton that fought Mayweather were better versions than the ones who fought Pacquiao. Again, what are the Pacquiao fans going to say when Floyd outclasses him? Oh, Pacquiao started his career at 106 ponds (yeah, 14 years ago), Oh, Floyd had the advantage being the bigger man (yeah, Paquiao weighed in at 148.5 versus De La Hoya). ETC......

 

check their career weights. Its not hard just go on boxrec. No doubt Floyd is the much bigger man.

I hate how people try to take credit away from Pac making it look like he's not moving up in weight fighting bigger guys. Even Barrera, Morales and JMM were bigger than Pac the first time he fought them.

 

All the talk about floyd fighting smaller men pac is smaller but not much he fought since he was 21 no lower than 119 lbs, marquez started 4 lbs south of floyd and hatton started 10 lbs north of floyd.

 

Should be 50-50 split both are great fighters just have different styles

 

yeah floyd beat a better version of Oscar ... Oscar threw punches and was active for 12 rounds ... he was still competetive and he fought at 154 ...

Hatton was the same fighter but the blueprint was out on how to beat Hatton ... (with straight punches)
Hatton admitted it ... Floyd broke him down and outclassed him for 10 rounds until he had nothing left ... no stamina ... no strategy ... and no way to turn ...

 

de la hoya yes. Hatton no. Though you never know, as hatton had alreasdy been ko'd and lost hes O. Saying that, the fight was at 147 pounds-certainly to hes best weight

 

To be honest, I didn't like how Hatton looked at the weign-in for his fight against Pac; he looked a bit drained, more than usual. This leads me to believe that he possibly could have overtrained and it could have attributed to him having less punch resistance against Pac. However, I have to say that Pac gave Hatton more trouble than anyone else and dominated him from opening to close at Hatton's native weight; that is something Mayweather didn't do as he gave in to Hatton's style by going back to the ropes and letting him push him around until he got the hang of things.

Overall, I have to say that without a doubt, Manny's performance against Hatton was certainly more dominant and impressive than that of Mayweather's. And although the Hatton that showed up against Pacquiao may have not been entirely the same one who showed up against Mayweather, I would say that it had to do more with Pacquiao and Pacquiao's style, rather than Hatton being punch drunk or overtrained. Basically, my point is regardless of which Hatton would have showed up that night against Pacquiao (Mayweather, Tszyu), the fight would have ended the same way, give or take 2-3 rounds.

On to De La Hoya: Without a doubt, the De La Hoya that showed up against Pacquiao was weight drained and old, I think it had to do mostly with the loss of weight that De La Hoya looked liked he had sand bags in his feet. The De La Hoya that fought Mayweather would have finished the fight and would have had a better chance at beating Manny.

In the end though, styles make fights. Its difficult to determine an outcome simply based on how much better figher A looked than fighter B against the same opponent. Mayweather tends to be more cautious, even though it sometimes appears he doesn't need to, while Pacquiao creates more opportunities being more aggressive while at the same time exposing himself more to danger. I think that stylistically, Mayweather's style (patient counter puncher) favors him in a fight against Pacquiao, but you can never underestimate or count out a guy like Pacquiao, just ask his last two opponents.

 

floyd beat the better oscar

hatton was arguably the same(despite the different weight)

 

good point, great post especially with that last part. If they have dispute over the money then bet the purse split so the winner takes the big cut although i prefer it 40/40 and winner takes 20% more

On topic also, i agree mayweather beat better versions of hoya and hatton:good

Hoya was 154 champ, who beat mayorga and floyd went up there under all of oscars condition's like ring size, gloves etc. all in favor of him. Floyd didn't ask him to come down in weight.

Hatton, while he moved up he was still undefeated and he called out floyd so it was a better win. In fact after that fight imo floyd ruined him, took his 0 and his pride that night. Great fight to be remembered:happy

 

Are you guys saying that a 147 Hatton that was never knocked out would lose to a 140 Hatton that has been knocked out?

You can say that Manny's win was more impressive because he went up to Hatton's weight, but do you honestly believe that a damaged 140 Hatton is superior to an undefeated 147 Hatton H2H?

That's the question here, it's not a matter of what the circumstances were.

 

:good great point, just like what i was saying

 

Both of them beat a pretty worthless Oscar. But how they did it was miles apart. Floyd was terrified of Oscar, fought super cautious and got a split decision. Manny simply ****ed him up.
It took Floyd a bit of figuring out, and 8 rounds to take out Hatton. Many simply ****ed him up.
I have no doubt that Manny would have beaten the same versions of Oscar and Hatton that Floyd did. I also have no doubt that he would have done it in a more entertaining fashion.