Did mayweather duck a prime pacquiao?

That's one thing thing that Conte THINKS. He also believed the USADA doesn't do CIR testing, something he was also incorrect about.

I think people are more concerned about EPO and HGH than any "Blood doping" since you can create more red blood cells simply by training at elevation. Again, a cutoff gives him enough time to mask it or at least clear it out 2 in two weeks time, when training tapers down anyways.

 

So now pacquaio was prime when he was at WW. LMAO

 

Floyd wouldnt duck anybody, he just found easier options that paid the same or even more. So I would say avoided.

 

Yes, i think so.

Pac was a monster in 2008-2009, destroying guys PBF either had a harder time with (DLH, Hatton) or guys he was perceived to be ducking (Cotto, Margarito). His dad/uncle threw out the PED allegations because they were in shock at how easily he was beating these guys.

 

Mayweather didn't want the fight cos it didn't make sense from a business point of view. the money would have been good but only a little more than he makes fighting easy fights for him like marquez or hatton or ortiz as he would have had to to 50/50. But the risk of losing was much greater for floyd as his whole marketablty relies on being undefeated.

So if you call that ducking, then yes he did

 

I see you never saw the ODLH and Hatton fights and DKSAB

 

agreed apart from the bit about being paid more. He would earn more vs Pac, but not massively more,

Its not ducking like being scared etc. Floyd openly admits that he aint fighting to prove who the best is. For floyd its about the easiets fight for the highest reward. And that hasn't being Pac since 2008 to know.

It pobabable is more likely now because looking at options, manny pac makes sence. its still big money, but risk don't seem as high now taking into account recent performances.

Although i believe bradley cotto rematch and alvarez are better options financially with being less risk.

 

Huh? You're saying Pac didn't deal with DLH and Hatton easier than Floyd? Granted DLH was a walking skeleton and Floyd did KO Hatton.

 

you got it partially right Arum makes more money from double dipping from in house fights and if Pac lose he builds another star. The deal was a ready to go back in 200910 but Arum came up with a 1001 excuses not to make it happen. Now Arum is OK with Ped testing . . . the same test that killed the deal back in 2009/10. its funny Arum wants the same deal now that he walked away from 3 years ago:deal

 

I would not call those fights in any shape or form HARD.

As for cotto and Margo, PBF wanted the fight at 140 but Arum said Cotto was not ready.

PBF fought Baldy for the lineal title and the grean belt . . . we all know floyd loves the green belt (instead of Margo) for the same money that the Arum put on the table for. After the Baldy fight PBF announced he was gonna retire after one more fight because his body was breaking down. He fought Oscar for a **** load of money, then Ricky for almost as much then retired like he said. would you fight someone for less money? would you retire from your job early if you could?


all of this is bull**** . . . a deal was struck in 2009/10 but Arum said no because of drug testing. Everyone on here that is crying now about the fight said Arum was right at the time to walk away from the fight . . . because floyd should not be able to dictate this. Now that drug testing is Ok they forget that Arum wants the same deal that was struck back in 2009/10

 

I never said Floyd ducked Cotto/Margarito, just that he was perceived to be ducking them.

 

You can create far more red blood cells by doping, and it would confer a large advantage. Again, (to use legal terminology) the issue is not whether a post-fight blood test is dispositive (no drug test can be); the issue is whether a post-fight blood test is probative. Clearly it is.

 

I really don't understand how you guys can even be bothered discussing this topic any longer :think

 

I hate to say it. But yes he clearly did. What an event it could have been. Would have done so much for our sport.

 

I missed the perceived . . . but are you saying he didnt duck? if you are it is not logically consistent with the rest of your statement . . . if you did not want to say he ducked why would you say it in the first place? So I gather from rereading your statement and your follow up that you think floyd wanted the fight? because he did not have a hard time with ODLH and Hatton and he never ducked Pac's opponents Cotto and Margo