Did Mayweather fight a more brawling type of fight against Cotto....

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  1. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    You're a moron. Ko6
     
  2. ThaWiseJester

    ThaWiseJester Boxing Addict Full Member

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    IN the last round,you saw how Floyd could have fought,and that was just box him on the outside.. He knows that he needs to entertain the fans if he wants to sell PPV..
     
  3. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    He tried getting off the ropes at times earlier and Cotto pushed him back. Believe me it was no choice of his to stay there.
     
  4. Nonito Smoak

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    I believe that he thought he could stop Cotto if he brawled with him a bit and let him gas out quickly. Cotto didn't really gas out until the 9th-10th though...
     
  5. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I disagree with this.

    I think Mayweather was satisfied being against the ropes when he was. If it was a smart move or for what reason exactly he was satisfied is debatable. I think there was only one or two moments where you could say he got "trapped" there.
     
  6. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    He's simply habituated to moving in a linear fashion. There were only a few times he was literally trapped against the ropes, but he was rarely in control of the center, and that's only a choice as far as it is the style he's always fought with. So I disagree with the notion some seem to have that Floyd could have simply moved around and boxed all 12 rounds and instead chose to fight at close quarters on his own terms.
     
  7. Nonito Smoak

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    You're right, but I think the answer lies somewhere between both POV's.
     
  8. MichiganWarrior

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    Mayweather fights off the ropes against power punchers. No matter if they are on the level of Ndou or Cotto. Its part of his style. The only punchers that Floyd moved against were Chico and Castillo and that was a much you get mobile Floyd. He'll Corley was able to "trap" Floyd against the ropes.

    In the lead up to the fight Floyd was fighting his sparring partners precisely how he fought Cotto. Allowing the sparring partners to unload and then when they reset firing off blistering combinations. Precisely what he did vs Cotto. From the camp stories we hear early on his sparring partners were having success but Floyds stamina and counters would eventually wear on his opponent and they would fall apart. This is precisely what happened to Cotto.

    While Floyd has lost some quickness and ability to maintain distance in order to fire off his right hand lead without his opponent being able to retaliate ala Hatton he has always primarily fought luring larger opponents in with his back to the ropes than unleashing damaging counters.

    Only difference in Floyds style is his willingness fire off more counters and combinations. That has been a pleasant consequence of Floyd losing some quicknes and wantin to be more entertaining.
     
  9. tezel8764

    tezel8764 Boxing Junkie banned

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    I'm a Mayweather fan but it's bull**** he could have moved boxed Cotto for a full 12 Rounds. His legs have slowed down a lot. Still the best though but I feel he faces a Martinez or a Trout he'll be in a lot of trouble.
     
  10. TheRat

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    cotto does have a great jab since the guy is left handed, that jab is stiff af
     
  11. 6'4south

    6'4south Well-Known Member Full Member

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    @Premenal

    I not an apologist for anyone and I certainly could not tell you the who, what and why of who Mayweather has, or has not faced, there's certainly a lot of speculation when it comes to this matter, and most people will draw there own conclusions and opinions. What I have noticed from Mayweather as of late is, he's certainly been affected by criticism towards him for some of the very things you've mentioned, among other things, and I believe he actually fought down a level against Cotto just to make it more entertaining. Taking nothing from Cotto, but not only did Mayweather move up to 154 to fight Cotto, but Cotto was the WBA LMW champ and Ring Magazines #1 LMW in the world. The unfortunate thing about so many good to great fighters is, they even lose in victory sometimes, and Mayweather is definitely P4P in that category.
     
  12. Baclava

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    Cotto has indeed a good jab.
     
  13. steviebruno

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    Floyd has never been a stick and move fighter. He has always been a fast-twitch potshotter. He doesn't have the legs he used to have, but he's never been one to rely too much on them, anyway.

    The movement he used against Diego was strategic. He knew that Corrales needed to stop and plant to throw with any sort of power. He kept Diego on the move all night, negating the one chance he really had.

    Hatton's foot speed forced Floyd to move more than he probably wanted to. The weight factor had nothing to do with it, as Floyd was clearly the stronger man on the inside. Floyd simply needed to create distance to land his potshots.

    He basically fought Shane, Oscar, and Cotto in the pocket, which he is quite adept at doing. It's probably much easier for him to fight this way than it is for him to bounce around like he's still 25, just to stop moving and land the same selection of punches that he likes to throw.
     
  14. Uncle Rico

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    Your brother is right. Cotto also dragged Floyd into that fight. By no means was it Floyd's choice to take him on like that. Paraphrasing the words of the man himself: "There is nothing cool about getting punched in the face".
     
  15. dinovelvet

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    He fought like that to raise his stock. He could of beat Cotto a number of different ways that night.