Did Mickey Ward have the greatest left hook to the body in Boxing history?

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  1. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Rockabye Ruben is the first name that comes to mind.

    Had Gerald McCellan not gotten hurt he may have been on that very short list. He would throw a rightcross followed by a devasting lefthook to the body.
     
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  2. thistle1

    thistle1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    YES, of course he does.

    150 years of 'mainstream' Boxing, times Tens of Thousands of fighters, of course he does.
     
  3. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    TheHorror!
    The Horror!
     
  4. The Long Count

    The Long Count Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It was great. Because Mickey was only a very good fighter and not great, people may think his hook can’t be among the best ever but it was.
     
  5. Greb & Papke 707

    Greb & Papke 707 Active Member Full Member

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    I personally don’t think so, so many guys to choose from, Walker, Dempsey, Frazier, Cooney, Fitzsimmons, ect, ward is probably top 15 to 20 left hook
     
  6. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I am stunned by this statement from you. Did you mean Ward?
     
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  7. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I doubt it

    Chavez had a better left hook downstairs,
    So did Barrera, Robinson, Walker, Gavalin, McClellan as well as a large amount of Mexican's.
    But imo the Greatest of all is Tony Zale
     
  8. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No one can say that any one fighter had THE best anything, left hook, right cross, stamina, whatever. None of us have seen more than a tiny fraction of what's out there to see really, and we have all probably seen quite a few whose left hook to the body is at the very least equal to Ward's. He is in the discussion here only because of his HBO-friendly love affair with Arturo Gatti. No disrespect intended to him, he was a hard working, honest fighter and that's all anyone can expect of anyone, but it hardly earns him entry into the "best" of anything.
     
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  9. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah I meant Ward
     
  10. thistle1

    thistle1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    PRECISELY!

    this is also true of ATG's,
    Great's lists,
    Ratings,
    Top 500, 100, 25 0r Top 10 Greatest

    Achievement base lists and all such nonsense.

    it is more accurate, honest, objective and realistic to recognize Great Fighters, Champions and Contenders equally in the running with one another with often 'little' between them. and on that understanding it is true that there are HUNDREDS of Greats in the same basic level of Excellent Fighters!
     
  11. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Absolutely not.
     
  12. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chandler/Pintor is a pickem fight.

    Pintor was very good and did have a good left hook, but several very good fighters went the distance with prime Pintor. No reason to believe prime Chandler wouldn't last the distance.
     
  13. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Shouldn't "the technician" Eddie Gregory be in there somewhere?
     
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  14. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mickey and Gerry both learned the reverse hook, as he called it, from Victor Valle.

    The technique is a tap hook to the head, which raises the opponent’s elbow to expose the liver, and a snap into a hard hook to the liver.

    Gerry was, I believe, a natural lefty who converted thus his true power hand was his lead hand. And Mickey sometimes switched southpaw, so maybe he was a left-hander as well.

    I don’t know if anyone but Valle taught the reverse hook. He also trained Alfredo Escalera, Esteban De Jesus and Billy Costello. All of his fighters used it to some degree. Not sure how long Ward was associated with him, but that’s where he learned it.
     
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  15. williams7383

    williams7383 TKO 6 Klit Lickers Full Member

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    Ricky Hatton v Castillo is textbook
     
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