Did mike ever fight someone who could jab or move as good as douglas?

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Seems a bit of a bizarre criticisim though, so if jones had have retired after beating tarver he'd have somehow greater despite doing less than he actually did? Kinda crazy if you ask me :think
     
    lufcrazy, Jan 15, 2012
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  2. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    It's the same thing as some rating Cal as an unbeatable machine with a great legacy because of 46-0 and 20 something defenses.;)


    And Jones being one of the (if not the) most divisive figures in the sport doesn't help matters either.
     
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  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Guys like robinson, langford and charles carried on past their best picking up meaningless losses.

    Loads of champions throughout history could retired undefeated had they so desired, it's not that huge a deal really.
     
    lufcrazy, Jan 15, 2012
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  4. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Same opinion.
     
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  5. lufcrazy

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    :good
     
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  6. salty trunks

    salty trunks Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tubbs, Williams, Tucker, Biggs all had comparable skills to Douglas when they fought Tyson. Fighters like Holmes and Thomas could be argued in as well but for the sake of the timing I would say those first four easily could jab and move just as good as Douglas.

    The difference is Douglas could also fight a little going forward which he did in this fight after finding his mark fairly easily on the stationary Tyson.

    Tubbs and Tucker couldnt find the mark and one went into survival and the other was KO'd. Biggs was moving well but his cut opened up and Tyson basically beat his legs off and made him stand and fight.
     
    salty trunks, Jan 16, 2012
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  7. crippet

    crippet Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Except for the ones he didnt KO in his prime??
     
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  8. lufcrazy

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    No those he still knocked out, it was just so quick we all missed it ;-)
     
    lufcrazy, Jan 16, 2012
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  9. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    how far would you take mike back in his career b4 he wins this fight?
     
    kingfisher3, Jan 16, 2012
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  10. lufcrazy

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    Impossible to say if he'd have ever beat douglas. But round about the time tucker beat douglas you'd have to have felt mike was capable of the same result.
     
    lufcrazy, Jan 16, 2012
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  11. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    When he was the under guidance of Rooney would be good.
     
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  12. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Sometime between berbick and spinks is when I'd have place tyson at his absolute zenith as a fighter.
     
    lufcrazy, Jan 16, 2012
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  13. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Nah, his absolute best performance was against Sims;)
     
    Lester1583, Jan 16, 2012
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  14. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Or at what other stage could Douglas have pulled this off against any pre-prison version of Tyson?
     
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  15. lufcrazy

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    maybe as early as 89 once he's sorted his napper out :think
     
    lufcrazy, Jan 16, 2012
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