Did Miura take years off Vargas?

Francisco Vargas is very good, and he is still every bit as good as he was. He had an even fight against a guy with a style that doesn't allow Vargas to play to his biggest strengths. Vargas can box AND brawl.


Salido has continued to improve as a fighter. These last few fights is the best I've seen Salido look. He's so intelligent at closing distance and roughing you up on the inside - Salido is definitely better than Maidana, too.

I have to see Lomachenko vs Salido rematch. It is going to be such a gruelling fight for Lomachenko. Salido is even more refined now.
With the low blows by Salido last night, they were ones that are hard to penalise him for. I hope Loma is not thinking he's deffo going to win the fight (on the basis of calling foul when there are low blows landed on him).

I think Salido earned the push for a rematch having beaten Loma in the first place, clearly beating Rocky Martinez in both fights, and having a draw against a very good fighter.

EDIT: Doesn't allow Vargas

 

Loma has a lot to worry about. He'll get Salido this time, but after a gruelling experience.

People see Mikey Garcia almost like a mythical figure at 126lbs, but styles make fights and regardless, Salido was starting to put a beating on Garcia before the fight got stopped by the headbutt.

I am completely convinced the reason why Lomachenko had a great twelfth round against Salido is because the weight cutting as well as the high activity started to dawn on Salido (who should've been a SFW), Salido lost considerable stamina - that's what allowed Loma to get back into the fight.
At 130lbs, Salido has shown no signs of losing stamina across the stretch.

I think Vargas is probably the slightly easier fight for Lomachenko because Vargas is more of a 'boxer' than Salido. Yet I know Vargas would try to get in close and will make things competitive. This would be a perfect preparation for a Salido fight.

 

Exactly:good Salido better duck a Loma rematch, because that's his ass:deal

 

No he was not putting a beating on Mikey Garcia. Salido is a very experience fighter who is never out of the fight, and had a round or 2 towards the end, but in no shape or form was Garcia EVER in trouble!. Loma will wreck Salido in the rematch, he's just to technically skilled to be beaten twice by the same guy.

 

Yeah, Garcia wasn't in major trouble but it was turning notably in Salido's favour.

I obviously think Loma would beat Salido, too...he's a smarter fighter than Vargas and even Mikey - rematches also favour the boxer more. It is a big task, though. Maidana gave Mayweather problems and earned a draw IMO..well, Salido is better than Maidana and looks awesome at 130.
Loma hasn't been put in a situation where he effectively deals with such effective aggression (under the dirty pro format).

 

Salido is just one of those fighters where you're not going to win EVERY round against. That's fine, but against people with high ring IQ Salido is just another ordinary fighter. At 130 I don't see him being successful against the current world champs. Maybe Fortuna doe:deal

 

I totally disagree.. Mikey would have had to fight back to win late, but don't ever put it past Mikey to not do so. Mikey can ****ing fight!:deal

 

Totally disagree. Garcia was in control and was able to follow the blue print laid out by JMM and Gamboa.

At the elite level he can be out boxed, if you don't have those elite skills he will impose his will on you and grind you down.

 

Loma has the highest ring IQ but looked like a lost boy.
Rocky Martinez is a current champ (one that Salido really beat twice).
Francisco Vargas is a current champ (Salido fought to a draw and IMO it's plausible to say he won 7-5, although in that fight no one derserves to be known as the 'loser' of that fight)
Javier Fortuna is a current champ and would get beat by Salido.

That leaves Jezreel Corrales, who I don't know much about.

Salido has already proved he is not just another ordinary fighter. He has improved with age, just like he did when he was a kid. It's the fact of his career, he constantly improves.

 

I think Mikey would have weather the storm, but you are definitely right. A late stoppage doesn't seem too far-fetched to me, either.

 

He looks good against guys who are willing to fight him. I can't say more than that. JMM, Gamboa and Mikey beat him pretty easily imo. And that says it all.

 

Corrales is number 1 for me.

 

At 130?