Did more people believe Fury won the first Wilder fight after the second fight was over?

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  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not deflecting, just calling it how i see it. If you look at the fan scorecards 99 percent of people had it in favor of GGG. I did to
     
  2. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So you've moved from "blatant" to "fill in the gaps". I feel like this is progress. Rochin's card is bad, I agree.

    You can believe that the draw scorecard "heavily favoured" Wilder, but disagreeing with a decision is hardly evidence of corruption. A robbery means the outcome is indefensible, and certainly that is not the case here. The Fury judge and draw judge were one round apart. At bottom, you have a fight without a lot of action in most rounds. And Wilder was the one with the two 10-8s in his pocket. Still, Fury could have danced in the 12th and given the round away, yet he would have won.

    Thankfully, we got resolution (or at least I thought) in the rematch. Fury proved himself the superior fighter and got the KO. He outboxed Wilder in the first fight and beat him up in the second fight. Fury fans and Wilder haters alike should be happy.
     
  3. shadow111

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    There were a lot of reasons for that. Most people were not expecting Canelo to beat GGG, so naturally in a close fight, you'd expect those who expected GGG to win to score it for him.

    GGG was undefeated and was the reigning Middleweight Champ, the way Canelo fought the first time was not "taking it to the champ" in the way that most people convinced themselves needed to happen for GGG to be dethroned. The fight was simply too close for most people to give Canelo the benefit of the doubt in the close rounds. GGG threw more punches, was the fighter coming forward, there are all reasons why most people had GGG winning that first fight. It was largely a result of GGG fan Hype, the fact that he was Champ, expected to win led to most people scoring it in favor of GGG, it was less about who landed the better cleaner punches in the majority of rounds which was Canelo.
     
  4. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bruh
     
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  5. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bruh - you said it yourself you had it 115-113 GGG. That's one swing round away from a draw. I don't see how you can have a fight that close but claim that a draw was unreasonable.
     
  6. Surrix

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    who had schooled Wilder in 2 fights in US.

    While Wilder fans are dreaming how this kid will KO Valuev by evaluing over the hill with heavy joints problems surprisingly slow version of Valuev and " easily beateble " for Wilder.

    30 y.o Valuev was far more huge size than Fury had in the ring and with low fat and most likely had KOed Wilder out cold.
    Good if Wilder after such fight ever had been able to talk and eat without assistance not alone to walk.

    Wilder was 10X worse than over the hill old Mike or Holy, not alone xxx boxers.
     
  7. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    LOL @Surrix. I don't call anyone who criticizes Wilder a hater. You invented that.

    But based on the post above, you most *definitely* are a hater. My goodness.
     
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  8. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not 1 swing round. GGG won. As a matter of fact all the rounds i scored for Canelo aren't even decisive rounds, round 3 being one of them. GGG should have taken it
     
  9. shadow111

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    Ward's performance in the Kovalev rematch was legendary. And the Kovalev fights were the first time Ward fought in Vegas. So he did leave the comfort of his home in Oakland to fight Kovalev. Not out of the country, but P4P is about skill and your in-ring performances, not where you fight.
     
  10. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    The point i proved is that fans use eyes not media

    You admit this yourself
     
  11. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I do not care how you might value me and my posts here and will you call me as hater or no.

    Only 1 alone enough well known in europe pro boxer Wilder had in the ring does have name Tyson Fury.
    Only one alone damn well known in europe and eurasia name Wilder had in the am ring does have name Russo and sorry.
    Wilder had lost this one.
    I forget that for you Wilder is better than Russo, for me not and neve ever will be. Russo was proven superstar who had fought every one every where he had been given to fight with.


    So you do claim that I hate US cash cow in Wilder who is GOD because beated up not known in world boxers?
    1 alone pro boxer well known in europe/ eurasia Wilder had in the ring was guy with name Tyson Fury and this is what this is there.
     
  12. shadow111

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    Rounds 4, 5 and 6 , or round 11 weren't decisive rounds. Round 3 was a clearer Canelo round than rounds 4, 5, 6 or 11 were clear GGG rounds, but two judges gave GGG the 3rd round, that was corrupt. Even Harold Lederman the HBO unofficial scorer who had GGG winning gave Canelo round 3.

    Reality is many rounds in that match were close, competitive, and hard to score.
     
  13. Surrix

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    Ohh, me more like Ward vs Kovalev I, I might had scored this as a Ward or Kovalev win or a draw for sure and not shame for lad in Ward if he had even lost decision, Ward was not LHW career boxer;).
    I use the same criteria regardless from fighter's origin. I might be even a lot friendly vs US boxers, some lads liked me damn a lot.


    If Ward fight vs Kovalev II had been ruled as NC ( believe me, in U.K or europe this had been this if not worse for Ward ) and he had 3 rd fight vs Ward I had more respect for Ward.
    While I agree that he did properly that he retired not fought vs Beterbiev, this dude was too huge for him and maybe Gvozdyk was more huge than Beterbiev and if these are in their prime, then there.

    Also If Ward had gave rematch vs Kessler he had get from me more respect.

    While Ward in ams liked me damn a lot, really this was boxer who liked me to watch.
     
  14. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    LOL Wilder would one shot Valuev. Fury is dimensions beyond Valuev, it doesn't matter how big that man is he ain't no slickster and he doesn't use his size against his opponents. This is a complete mismatch
     
  15. MarkusFlorez99

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    Not hard to score if you watch the fight with unbiased eyes
     
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