Did Olivares quit to Herrera?

Well, if that's now considered quitting I guess most boxers throughout history are quitters as well.

 

I'm a huge Ruben fan, but when he didn't want to get up, he didn't get up. No shame in that. I think with Herrera, with all the blood and being weakened making weight he just said the heck with it. I don't hold it against him

 

I don't think he quit, and Boxing Illustrated writer Don Majeski, who covered the bout...gave a splendid account of the action, wrote of how methodical and steady that beating was...and made to seem even worse by all that blood letting...that "it looked like Mexican bull fight" with Herrera as the skilled matador not wanting a "missed kill" really went to town on Ruben in that 8th round and "slayed the bull" (or "slew" the bull)...so hell no, I don't think Olivares tanked it. I think he got as comprehensively whipped as a fighter could get. Great performance by "Raffles" Herrera, I must say.

 

I have that magazine. I think the title of the article is "Death in the Evening" He wrote about the fight like it was a bullfight

 

..Thank you Skins...and I take my hat off to you for sill retaining that magazine...sure with I somehow still had my old boxing mag collection.

 

Actually got it off ebay along with a couple thousand other old ones. But I did have that one when I was a kid. Check out ebay, you can get them pretty cheap

 

You know McGrain,...come to think of it, I think maybe he could have...if he really wanted to, but it would have been very foolish, as Herrera was way too much for him that evening...so he probably just said, "hey fluck it"...

 

Thank you sir, I shall.

 

Could've beat the 10, he'd had enough.

 

I'm a huge Olivares man, but gotta admit, I asked this same question several years back. First saw it on VHS and believe me, I kept playing-rewinding-playing and I kept saying to myself, 'I'm not seeing it.' I asked a buddy of mine who was close to the Olivares camp and he said the same as most of you are saying. It was accumulation. Olivares had the biggest heart, but when the tank is dry, it's over. Too many trips to the cantina and steam bath for Ruben at 118.

 

It can happen to the best of them. Look at Arguello - Pryor II among dozens of other examples. Sometimes it just happens. When it happens to ATG's it just takes a bit of understanding and palleting.