DID OSCAR REALLY ONLY PUT 2Lbs ON AFTER THE WEIGH-IN?

that fine was for the weigh-in, not for fight night fighting weight.

i think dlh was very concerned about pac's big speed advantage. he went in light for speed to possibly hang with pac. but apparently like somebody said here, that tactic didn't work.

but judging from the photos, i really don't think that dlh came in lighter than pac. it was probably part of the mind games happening just before the fight. and this tactic apparently didn't work too.

 

knew there had to be financial penalties involved to explain the 145 at weigh in plus 147 on fight night. if oscar wasn't so greedy he'd realize that he'd be severely weight drained because he's prolly too old to be making such a light weight. oscar's almost 5'11 and at 35 he's prolly best at around the middle weights.

 

Yo...I agree that wasn't the OSCAR we are us to seeing. Part of that is because of Manny part has to do with father time. But in the end DLH showed against steve forbes that he is still a very good fighter.....just past his best days. Even with that known the WAY PAC dominated was something special considering where PAC started and how he had lost by KO in the past....going up to 147 from really 130 (only having faught Diaz at 135) is pretty amazing.

I think DLH felt his size, Power and reach would be enough to overcome Manny. I also think he may have mentally taken Manny lightly and when he got in there the surprise was too much.

DLH wasn't dehydrated...DLH was is championship condition as his weight on fight night would suggest! If DLH balooned up to 160 then yea,......I'd say maybe he was ill prepared and weight drained but DLH took the weight off properly...got in the rounds he need and did the conditioning necessary to show he wouldn't run out of gas.

Hell....the beating he took he could have gassed out after round 5!

 

also how stupid could oscar be to believe that his power would be a lot better than pac's if he's actually lighter than pac on fight night?? he did have high school physics right (power= mass x acceleration) and he does know pac's probably faster right?

 

It was for the HBO weigh-in on fight night. There was a reason an old pro like ODH came in 2lbs under. He had to gain some over night.

When i get the source i'll post it. If you wanna take it with a pinch of salt at the momment be my guest, im not trying to be an arse.:good

 

Pac fought a great fight. No one can take that away.
However DLH obviously was dehydrated. I would have expected DLH to put on 10 to 15 pounds of water overnight.
If it turns out that the wiegh in clause was for fight night, not the official wiegh in. DLH was crazy to agree to fight in such a condition

 

...but Pac doesn't belong at 147 either SD.

...and I don't think you are suggesting that DLH would be a competitve Jr MW or MW...he went down to a weight he should be able to compete at, because he certainly can't compete above it...and cherrypicked a fighter of much smaller stature from a lower division, only to make his opponent look like Willie Pep. He also blocked punches with his face well.

 

Yep, crazy indeed. Definitely hurt his chances to win the fight. Easy to look great against a virtual punching bag.

 

Roach interview.

“The weight limit is 147,’’ Roach re-iterated. “My plan is for Manny to come in at 142 and by fight time be up to 147. He was 147 in his last fight (when he defeated WBC lightweight champion David Diaz in his first fight at that high a weight). He struggled to make 135. In fact, he had to lose a pound the day of the weigh in and he told me that day he wanted to go up in weight again so we don’t have a problem moving up.

“He fades in easy fights,’’ Roach said of De La Hoya, who he prepared for his showdown with Floyd Mayweather, Jr., a fight that ended with De La Hoya abandoning a jab that had been highly effective in the early rounds and being outhustled down the stretch of a split decision defeat. “That’s why I want to keep Oscar looking for us all night. There was a reason why Oscar stopped jabbing against Floyd. I’m not going to talk about it but I know what it was. I pretty much know what Oscar has left.’’

What Roach believes he has left, at least if forced to fight at 147 for 12 rounds, is not enough stamina or strength to outwork or out speed Pacquiao. What he also believes is if De La Hoya is forced to come in at the welterweight limit he agreed to fight at, he will be even more vulnerable than he appeared to be in May against Forbes in a fight in which he won every round but from which his face came out bruised and swollen despite his opponent’s well-deserved reputation for floating like a butterfly and stinging like one, too.

 

Of couse DLH look skinny, scrawny....he was fighting at 147! THis is a man who has been fighting at 154 and even 160 for the last 7 yrs! We are just not use to seeing DLH this low in wieght. But DLH did not look like he was in terrible shape at the weigh in...he looked in very good shape and his weight validated that.

Of course this wasnt' the best DLH and that's why I said this win should be kept in perspective.....just like Joe's most recent win over Roy. But non the less DLH was still beating up very good oppostiion as early as this year and as late as last year aginst the then P4P king...FLoyd Mayweather Jr.

I feel the biggest reason for how DLH looked was not poor conidtioning, being ill prepared or weight drained...it was b/c of PAC. Plain and simple. THe speed, movement and punches from all angles was just more than DLH expected and I think after round 2 DLH began to realise that.