Did pacman beat prime 3?

...That gets your point across well.

Though Id Personally have MAB a little closer to the top...He had shown signs of decline against Tapia but his slide was very gradual. And I think though he was the closest to his prime, out of the ring factors would have helped him look like he wasnt as close. His post Pac I form was still pretty good for a while.

 

that might make it easier for them to understand, but i have my doubts

 

mab's decline is very gradual that even now, he is still good of a fighter that i am confident he would beat khan. if you will look at it, he lost 2 of his last 3 fights but the top 2 fighters in the world. and one was a close one against jmm. not bad.

 

Did you follow MAB's career? Did you know who MAB was before Pac fought him? Did you not know that it was well accepted that he had left something of himself in the ring against Morales? Did you not see and hear all the post fight reports after he fought Tapia, and how he was not the same fighter. Did you not see how sluggish he looked against Kelley? If you knew Barrera back then, you would know 2003 MAb was not the same.

Yes, MOrales was a good fighter, being a good fighter doesn't make you prime. Many good B level fighters such as Rocky Juarez beat Zahir Raheem, but Morales couldn't. Because he was SHOT.

Oscar, yes the hell we know, a prime 147 ODLH would make Pac have his baby. A prime 147 DLH who fought Trinidad, Mosley, Quartey, Chavez, Whitaker would **** Manny.atsch

Freakin *******. What's worse is that this dude gives Pac Fans a bad name and none of his ******* friends come and check him. They never do.

 

I agree. That's why I made that picture.

But it doesn't change the fact that he was past his prime when he fought Pac. The proof is all over this thread and the other thread.

 

quit with your mexican bias. if barrera, morales and oscar where not mexicans, i doubt you will find time making some illustration.

 

i'm glad that you have something to agree with me. but that's only because i praised mab i guess.

 

Way to rebuttal. Pull out the race card

 

believe me i don't want to but pulling the ******* card would not help your case of downgrading pac's every win. i did not even say that he beat a prime morales and oscar. i just argue that he beat a prime mab who i think most shared the same view.

 

To anyone that still have doubt or no respect to what Pac has done to this time, you will never get it.

 

prime doesnt just mean age or deterioration of skills because of age. take into account barrera obviously wasnt right in the first pacquaio fight. he apparently had training interupted because of forest fires and remember hearing rumours about him having a steel plate in his head because of an accident!!he wasnt in his prime that night but was in his prime later against morales in their third match up. people should note that boxers can also lose even if they are brilliant. honestly. swear to god

 

anyone else want a chocolate ice creme sunday now?

 

Barrera was still in his prime when pacman beat him the 1st time. He was the featherweight king at the time. Morales was still very good when he beat pacman the 1st time. Delahoya even though he is past his prime was still the favorite to win when he fought pacman on december 6.

 

Barrera was not at his best against Pac. His fight against Tapia and Kelley proved Barrera had slown down. He didn't have the same mobility or explosiveness he had in his prime. At that time it was agreed that Barrera had left some of himself in the ring against Morales. His decline was gradual, but by the time he fought Tapia, then Kelley and then Pacquiao, it was evident it wasn't the same Barrera we once knew. He was clearl past his best.

When Morales beat Pacquiao, he was coming off a loss against Barrera who was clearly passed it, who had been TKO by Pacquaio, he then lost to Zahir Raheem, a B level journey man, further proving his diminishing natural talent, and went on to lose to Manny twice and Diaz. Clearly, clearly pat his best and shot at worst.

De La Hoya was the favorite, but soon into the first round it was evident he was a zombie. There is no denying that a prime 147 ODLH would not only tear Pac a new hole, but also impregnate him. The ODLH that fought Quartey and Trinidad would have easily destroyed Pac.

One of the problems here is that many *******s claim Pacquiao to be the best of the last 10, 20, and hell even 30 years, but the fact that his only elite prime fighter or his resume is a man who most feel he beat Manny twice, and a close descision at best further shows that as gifted as Manny is, he has only fought one elite fighter in his prime.

 

people will twist any fact just to suit their agenda.