Did pacman beat prime 3?

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  1. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol: good one
     
  2. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    1. Hey nimwit, how can Morales be the best in his division after losing decisively to Zahir Raheem??:roll: And Barrera was fighting at 126 where there was not much talent. 130 was getting stacked.

    2.Pacquiao was defitnately prime. He was FAST, POWERFUL, HUNGRY, and YOUNG. The only thing he lacked was polishing, which he got from Roach. But I would say that he is still prime and in his peak, just on the other side of the tip.
     
  3. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    second fight was a fair deal and competitive.

    but i agree with the third fight
     
  4. jim22uk

    jim22uk Active Member Full Member

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    i really hate it when people disrespect a win and say the fighter was past his best yeah clearly dlhoya was, but you cant say morales and barrera were there is no pesific date when some one is at there best he beat those guys when they were about 30 which is pretty much a prime age to me.
     
  5. imp4pdabest

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    Age doesn't ALWAYS represent prime.
     
  6. jim22uk

    jim22uk Active Member Full Member

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    yeah thats true but you cant say barrera and morales were way past there best, he still beat them this is a stupid descusion any way pac is great simple as that hes beaten great fighters simple as that. you pick holes in everyones record and say he beat this fighter because he was past his best, he beat that fighter because he wasnt at his best its pefetic.
     
  7. Thwf

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    JMM actually should have lost to MAB. If Mab was awarded a knockdown which was ruled a slip, and if he wasn`t deducted a point when he hit on the break, he would have been ahead by 1-2 points. The latter was his fault though, he has himself to blame.
     
  8. PH|LLA

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    tx
     
  9. IsaL

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    If Barrera would have had a point taken away for hitting JMM while he was down, then it would have even things out don't ya think?:roll:
     
  10. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Please, give me a link that works.:verysad
     
  11. Thwf

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    I noticed though that being not prime and being shot are only described best for losing fighters. Boxers should sign a waiver before a fight declaring that they are prime and not shot.

    Being at prime and shot are actually myths, idealistic at best and very subjective. Like one would just be waitin for b-hop`s or Jmm`s next loss until one declares them shot.

    Its so hard to pit two boxers at their prime, it seldom happens and when it does we usually have one hell of a fight.

    Its best that we look at fighters at their present states and actual records. Being prime and not shot are the fighter`s obligation and responsibility before they AGREE on any fight.

    If not, it only gives way to headaches, imaginings, and never-ending arguments, much ado about nothing. Short of having computer-generated fights for boxers at their primes.

    Wishfull thinking, really.
     
  12. sprika2

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    only optimus is in his prime thats why megatron can't beat him
     
  13. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not it wasn't; in fact quite the opposite, he was seen as better than ever. Most people gave him credit for boxing better and more disciplined than earlier in his career. His lack of explosiveness was seen as a result of that improvement. Hence he was rated in the top P4P far better than he ever was before or since. Not to mention he was a big favorite to beat Pacman.
     
  14. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed, it is revisionist.
     
  15. littlefloyd

    littlefloyd Pure boxer Full Member

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    maybe you're not that smart enough to think that maybe styles makes fight. Lets say for example naseem fought morales at that time and won despite getting schooled by barrera. Styles makes fight..mab imo will always lose to pac.