Did Pacquiao beat The BEST version of Bradley???

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  1. hooligan

    hooligan Millionaire Bum Full Member

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    i thought bradley was on his way to a ud up to that point...
     
  2. hooligan

    hooligan Millionaire Bum Full Member

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    bradley 1 was a level below bradley 2...the second fight was quite competitive...
     
  3. general zod

    general zod World Champion Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol:
     
  4. general zod

    general zod World Champion Full Member

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    I have to agree with this. Lord knows what he was thinking
     
  5. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    not ONE of those 3 opinionated standings has never been close to my rankings, and mine are the only one that matters since all you did was just fart out your opinion.

    couple quick questions that should be very easy to answer if you TRULY have those opinions.

    the main reason you say bradley "was" p4p top 5 (i cringe inside whenever i see bradley and p4p in the same sentence. they just do NOT go together) the gift dec vs paq is how you claim your opinion was he was #3 @ww ? that is truly crazy. huge gift in that BS match and he beat 1 ONE ww who i dont even think was top 10 in any org.

    do you know what being in your PRIME is , clearly NOT.
    being prime is not a certain age or when you had your most recognizable wins.

    being prime means, you are in your physical and mental peak.
    bradley might had been in his mental peak going into the 1st pac fight but was mentally and physically shattered by round 4.

    fyi: how is it possible for bradley to be at his physical PEAK when he was above his peak fighting shape ? that kills your rumor of this so called peak bradley. nor was he near his mental or physical peak for the 2nd fight.

    he was at a weight he truly cant compete at, he needs to go back to 140 if he ever wants even a chance to sniff a legit tittle belt. this is how great bradley is and can be at ww, T Marg, one of the most over hyped journeymen that exceeding expectations would pummel bradley at 147..

    so how could you have bradley # 3 p4p with a straight face ? beating a jmm that is way past it doesnt do sh!t in reality, losing to pac by landslide doesnt do it either.

    bradleys ONLY legit (not even legit but its a win) win at ww was against who again ? aiden ? and that somehow makes him #2 when ww has been STACKED for years..

    i think i taught you what being prime means so you can stop spreading your silly opinion on that one. no one in "their prime" on any top 10 p4p list in the history of this sport gasses badly after 4 rounds like bradley did in the 2nd pac fight. yes, some of the blame can be put on him mentally, his ring iq is terrible and always has been always will be.

    fyi: chaves is going to destroy bradley, make some $$$, you'll get great odds because of meat***** like you thinking bradley is a top p4p fighter. LMFAO
     
  6. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes. Tim was at his best
     
  7. DonnyMo

    DonnyMo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tim beats any fighter at 140-147 not named Manny Pacquiao - I firmly believe that.
     
  8. DonnyMo

    DonnyMo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hahahahah this is the dumbest post i have ever read.

    Bradley NOT p4p?! Maidana is better??

    Bradley took Marquez, PEDerson, alexander, holt, provo, and abregu to boxing school. Losing to the fighter of the generation Manny pacquiao is no shame - stylistically he was also all wrong for TB.
     
  9. hooligan

    hooligan Millionaire Bum Full Member

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    bradley looked elite beating pac's kryptonite in jmm....
     
  10. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I mean he was clearly hurt something the commentary team ignored but he won fair and square

    Can't confidently say Bradley healthy would win

    As others said he won without bs catch weights
     
  11. PR BOXING

    PR BOXING Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yes. bradley actually could have won the 2nd fight if he stayed focused and stopped showboating and clowning
     
  12. Boom_Boom

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    Your definition of prime is right on, many people confuse it with a fighter's peak and many times both may never coincide with each other at any time in a boxer's career. For example Bernard Hopkins. However with that being said your ****ysis of Bradley is off by a country mile. No one in their right mind can say Bradley ' s mentality was better in the first fight where he was dominated through out and lost at least 10 rounds than it was in the 2nd fight where it was actually competitive.
     
  13. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No Bradley fought injured

    A healthy Bradley schools Balcq
     
  14. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    To get his hands raised vs Marquez, Bradley had to fight the most diciplined fight he's ever fought.

    I think Marquez just having come off KTFO6 of Pacquiao, intimidated Bradley worked against Marquez as Bradley had never been or has ever been as cautious as he was for that fight.
    Against Marquez, it was a jab and lateral away fight just about all the way through.

    I do think Pacquiao went up against the best possible Bradley and I think Bradley gave a good account for himself in the process but did'nt beat Pacquiao either time.


    Let me say this though, people dont have a clue.
    Some of you here think that the performance that Bradley turned in against Marquez means he's the better boxer, that he's smarter. :lol:

    Bradley's ring IQ I believe is overrated. Against an aging Marquez, Bradley stuck to his jab and move gameplan and never diverted. There was'nt really any adjustments he had to make in the fight. Marquez scored with the cleaner harder blows, Bradley stuck with the jab.

    The fight turned out to be a really close fight and a matter of taste of prefering a jab and mover with better body language, or the fighter coming foward with more punch substance and landing at a better % and landing the more potent power punches.

    Getting back to the point of my post, Bradley imo probably wanted to fight just as diciplined vs Pacquiao, but he did'nt have the style or the tools to do so.
    Pacquiao closes distance much faster than Marquez, and its that ability to get into punching distance that made Bradley go back to what he usually does when confronted by pressure.

    Against that type of mobility and pressure, Bradley does'nt have the offensive tools or repertoire to deal with, and does'nt have a straight or potent enough right hand thats Pacquiao's kryptonite, thus he reverted to standstill tradeoffs against a fighter more offensively explosive than he is.
    Bradley did however do a good job defensively against Pacquiao. Without the use of the jab that he used frequently against Marquez, he did employ lots of waist movement that kept Pacquiao off balance and unable to deliver with real power.

    Bradley's downfall againt Pacquiao however was him not being able to be offensive enough in the midst of employing good defense.

    Summation? Bradley is'nt good enough physically or IQ wise to deal with a quicker, faster, more powerful fighter than he.
    Bradley is not the typical counterpuncher which someone with his boxing characteristics needed to be against Pacquiao and that hurt him against him.

    Styles make fight, Bradley cant beat Pacquiao.
     
  15. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yep.

    Decisively.

    Twice.