Did Pacquiao lose all 4 fights vs Marquez?

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  1. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is so BS! That lottery/fluke punch could happen anytime anywhere. JMM was losing the fight before that punch landed on Pac chin.
     
  2. boxerfan13

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    This should be 3-1 Marquez. He won the 1st and 3rd fights for sure. 1st fight I remember giving Manny rounds 1,2,10. He got wiped out other than that. 2 was for Manny because of the KD. Fight 3 had Marquez 116-112. Fight 4.. KTFO6 Happened of course
     
  3. boxerfan13

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    And NOBODY WITH A FUNCTIONING BRAIN THINKS PACQUIAO WAS CLEAN WHEN HE WAS DUCKING RANDOM DRUG TESTS. KARMA IS WONDERFUL
     
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  4. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Factually 2-1-1 vs. Marquez.

    Near impossible to score the third fight to Pac. You could do it, I guess. Just only if you're watching it in slow motion, hanging upside down, blindfolded, with rope wrapped tightly around your genitals.
     
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  5. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    The HBO broadcast team is biased in just about every fight that involves a house favorite of theirs. Its gone on for years and years starting from way back when Julio Cesar Chavez propinated Meldrick Taylor the mother of all beatings. HBO had the audience believing Taylor was winning every round. LOL!
    They favored MAB over Morales, Pacquiao over Marquez, and recently Andre Ward over Kovalev.
    Their analysis of the fights are often way off, as are the hired punchstat counters. HBO appoints the trigger happy counters on their house fighter to give him an edge in punchstats.
    That's gone on for years and is part of the reason why punchstats are unreliable.
    Fans don't understand that punches are counted by people, and its a different set of persons counting for one fighter than the other. A lot of fans don't know that.
     
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  6. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    That's not how it happened.
    To make a long story short, Bob Arum made an offer of $750K to Marquez but because team Marquez wanted to negotiate, Arum took it off the table and gave the Paqcuiao fight to Erik Morales who was his cash cow coming off a loss in a rematch with MAB.

    Passing up 1.5 million to fight Morales is a blatant lie by Bob Arum who's always been known to be the biggest liar in boxing.

    ......and the story of Marquez passing up paydays to fight Pacquiao and Morales to fight John is a lieing stunt made up by Bob Arum.
    The Chris John fight for Marquez happened two years after he turned down a rematch to fight Pacquiao, so how the hell does someone believe that Marquez turned down $750K to fight John for 30K? That just isn't the case. In fact, after Marquez turned down an immediate rematch with Pacquiao he fought Orlando Salido and Victor Polo before his fight with John.
     
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  7. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Taylor won the first nine rounds handily vs Chavez. If you can't see Taylor outlanding Chavez by 200 punches that's your issue, Ray Charles. Chavez got lucky that night, because until the final three rounds he was giving a **** poor performance. HBO is awful when it comes to sucking the balls of their house fighters and giving no credit to underdogs, but your choice of examples is even worse in this instance.
     
  8. BodyBlaster

    BodyBlaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I gave all 4 to Marquez. Other than the disaster 1st round 1st time around he boxed his head off. Fight 2 IIRC was the closest, either 2 or 3 was Marquez by at least 2 rounds and fight 4 he flattened. fight 4 was actually Pacs best until he got ko"d
    Every fight was a classic, just be happy we saw 2 brilliant fighters prepared to do it over and over. throwbacks
     
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  9. general zod

    general zod World Champion Full Member

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    I thought JMM won the first fight and a case could be made for the 3rd fight as well
     
  10. general zod

    general zod World Champion Full Member

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    I think Murad Muhammad beats Arum in that department
     
  11. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Pacquiao 0-4 against Jmm, but they were all close. Greatest rivalry of the last 20 yrs. Modern day Battle of the Little Giants. All 4 were classics. Manny might of won some battles, but Dinamita won the war.
     
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  12. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    JMM did catch PAC in the 2nd but it wasn't a shot that really hurt him. He bounced up and began unleashing hell on JMM up until that highlight reel KO. JMM was busted up badly before then...Manny broke his nose and Juan's face was a bloody mess. Even the punch stats reflect it was pretty one sided in favor of PAC but ultimately JMM took advantage of his aggressiveness and almost put his lights out indefinitely
     
  13. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Floyd left no doubt who the better boxer was! No need for a rematch! Would have been interesting to see another fighter challenge FM to the point he had doubt and some fear that he had to adjust for.
     
  14. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    I had him winning the first fight, narrowly winning the second fight or drawing, losing the third fight and the fourth fight speaks for itself.
     
  15. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You can make an argument