Did Roldan have more power than Hagler?

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  1. ideafix12

    ideafix12 Well-Known Member Full Member

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  2. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    Juan Roldan, according to Amilcar Brusa, was a sparring partner for Carlos Monzon. Roldan was one of many who said that Carlos hit too hard in sparring.
     
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  3. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Of course Hagler would have heard the commentary as he was wearing an earpiece for this specific reason.






















    I give up........
     
  4. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Actually, Hagler was doing his own commentary DURING the fight......... Maybe he'll get it?
     
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  5. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mark, what they’re trying to say is ... do you think it’s possible Marvin might have looked at the video after and not muted the sound?

    Ray wasn’t trying to get inside Marvin’s head WHILE he was in the ring, but for the future. Ray was three moves ahead at all times.
     
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  6. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well Roldan did something Marvin Hagler never did: he knocked down Marvin Hagler.

    I’m not sure he hit harder — probably more force and thudding power than MMH but nowhere near as sharp or precise, more of a caveman clubbing vs. a sniper.

    But I think he was stronger than Marvin. Hell, he was almost certainly stronger than anyone he fought.
     
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  7. JohnThomas1

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    It would be interesting to get a timeline on this one if it happened even assuming it was say, for Monzon's last fight. Monzon's last fight was in mid 77 and Roldan didn't even turn pro until the end of 78 some 1 1/2 years later. He would have been 19 when Monzon fought last.

    I'd imagine he did indeed hit to hard for a young amateur.
     
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  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    You shouldn`t punch hard in sparring you should just be practising the fundamentals.
     
  9. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Hagler wasn`t hurt though Hearns hurt him more at the start of their epic clash.
     
  10. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He probably did. But Hagler was far more skilled and had a granite chin so it didnt mater
     
  11. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lol
     
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    christpuncher Active Member banned Full Member

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    That is why no-one will remember your name.
     
  13. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He didn't knock down Hagler friend, he pulled him down after missing a hook, but it does demonstrate his awkwardness and pure strength with that one missed shot.
     
  14. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Another attempt to build on the "legendary punching" power of Monzon. Yet during the majority of his career, most of his ko's came after the 5th -6rds during his championship run.
    He was a heavy handed, but not a dynamic puncher.
     
  15. JohnThomas1

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    Yes i'd agree he was heavy handed for sure without being near top level. His timing, output and stamina were the thing more so than big raw power. More of a heavy accumulation puncher.
     
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