Did Roy Jones duck these fighters? And why?

Benn- Maybe. But Jones was frying bigger fish for the most part at Super middle.

Eubank- No way. Eubank said he didn't want to fight Jones.

Mclellan- NO Their paths didn'[t really cross for any significant amount of time. G man was settling his Jackson wars, and Jones was moving up.

Collins- NO. Collins was ducking roy. HBO tried to make that fight and Collins wanted 7 million. He was told to take a hike.

Nunn- NO. Every time a fight would get close, Nunn would lose. Jones fought his conqueror instead.

Clazaghe- NO. Two differnt eras. Would have never made sense.

Hopkins- UMM, NO, since he fought him and beat him. After that it was up to Hopkins to take the losers split. And he never wanted to.

Toney- UMMM, NO, he beat him. And handidly. What would beating him AGAIN after a Drake thazdi loss prove??

DM- No. Jones wasn't going to Germanhy, and Dm wanted no part of Roy. Jones team did Fax several offers to Dm for a fight, in which Dm's team responded with "We don't respond to faxes".


Jirov- Hell no. Jirov was a cruiser while Jones was never at that weight until Jirov was out of the game.

Keith

 

Dm won't be remembered in five years.


Jones will stil be considered an ATG.

Dm wanted no part of Jones.


Keith

 

Jones never showed a weak chin in his prime.

 

-He had beaten Hopkins comfortably the first time;

-Jones was the bigger draw and name than Hopkins at that time;

-Their first fight wasn't exactly a barn burner... if you risk losing some of your drawing power, win or loss, you want to be paid for it;

-Why should he avenge a win?


I think Hopkins priced himself out by demanding 50/50. Fifty/fifthy was simply not a fair deal and Bernard knew it. Why should Jones take it? He already scored the win, he has no incentive to fight Hopkins, who at that time wasn't regarded half as high as he's now. Many people seem to forget that.

 

Unfortunately there is some truth in what you are saying:

http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-article/6327/boxing-mantle-roy-jones-legacy/

 

Lol at him ducking Hopkins. He had already beaten Hopkins, was the bigger draw and had reached the top of the sport and didn't need the rematch.

Hopkins is the one who should be considered as having ducked the fight by demanding too much. Especially as he needed it to avenge his loss and for his legacy .

 

Michael Nunn talking about his offer from Jones at SMW

http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-article/6327/boxing-mantle-roy-jones-legacy/

I wouldn't be surprised if he had offered the other SMW champions this ridiculous amount, no wonder they turned him down

Roy Jones before the Brannon fight said he offered the other SMW champs large amounts but in this interview taken in 2003 he says something very different:

http://www.tribune.ie/archive/artic...nes-jnr-boxing-icon-i-didnt-expect-a-white-a/

 

Jones was dropped and stunned by Lou De Valle, who wasn't a big puncher

 

roy jones was money hungary, no doubt about it, a non bias fan can easily see he ducked dangerous boxers and quite a few of them. instead he fought police men or bin men and got a good pay day with no risk at all

i dont think he ducked them for reasons of being scared

he just didnt have the heart and soul of a warrior, he did not want to cement his legacy, he just wanted the $$

 

Don King stopped this fight from happening by demanding promo options for Jones's next 3 fights.

Chris Eubank was happy to defend his WBO belt against his mandatories, he had no interest in ever unify the SMW belts. After he lost to Collins he did call out Jones but Jones wasn't interested

The fight was going to made on the assuming that Gerald got past Benn

Yeah I woud say Jones ducked him, Collins had been calling him out for years and retired when he knew that the fight would never happen

Nunn fought in the SMW and LHW divisions at the same time as Jones. Jones low balled him at SMW so the fight never happened and at LHW vacated his belt to avoid fighting NUNN who was his number 1 mandatory

Different divisons, Calzaghe was unknown and had a lowly regarded belt

This was Hopkins fault, Jones was the bigger draw, his belt was on the line and he had already beaten Hopkins a 60/40 split was more than fair.

Toney said he was more than willing to move back down for a fight with Roy at LHW but JOnes wasn't interested. I wouldn't say he ducked him but he should of made the fight to prove to the world that he could beat Toney whether he was weight drained or not

Not sure what to make of this, he could of taken a chance and if he pulled it off he would of greatly enhanced his legacy

Jones puled out of the talks I believe.

 

roy will fight any one anywhere
if he feels hes getting his fair share of the pie

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The facts don't really back up your position

 

there is a lot of truth in this post :deal

unless you were a civil servant or sanitation worker, prime roy jones wasn't interested in fighting you. he would never get in a ring with the likes of benn, mcllelan, eubank, collins, calzaghe, or DM.

in his prime, he was also never man enough to fight outside his own country (something that many other fighters get accused of but it was ok for roy).

he didn't need to fight outside america because he had the wool pulled over an entire nations eyes. a nation that didn't have a clue who benn, eubank, collins, calzaghe, DM was because they didn't realise other countries existed on the planet - hence 'the world series' in baseball

later in jones career he became exposed for having no chin and no heart. that would have been exposed much earlier if he didn't duck the real challenges. if jones had dared to fight mcllellan, then he would have been ktfo inside 3 rounds and that china chin wouldn't have been hidden for all those years.

 

Homie your articleis oooffffffffff...lol Roy faught Bernard(beat him) and Faught Toney( beat him) and toney caught Roy with some really good shots on the chin. He walked through them. Roy was P4P champ for some years. All those guys wanted him to come to their country and fight him for a 50/50 split. He wasnt gone do that. Why should he? All those fighters are nobodies.... Except 4 of them.

 

Firstly, the idea that Collins could have ever beaten Roy is laughable - that fight would have been a horrible mis-match.

He didn't duck Hopkins - they're both to blame because they couldn't agree terms. I will say Roy did deserve a bigger slice of the pie than Hopkins at that time.

The fight with DM really should have happened. Again, I think both guys are to blame - Roy had no inclination to go to Germany and Dariusz seemed happy to stay in his comfort zone.

Although I don't think Roy should take all the blame for the DM fight never happening, I think it does show the kind of mentality he had, which led to his legacy being questioned, when it should be beyond reproach.

He was happy to take mandatory challengers one after another, instead of actively seeking out the biggest challenges. HBO should take some of the blame for this too.

I don't doubt prime Roy could have beaten any of the guys he's been accused of ducking but the fact he could never be bothered to actually prove it undoubtedly hurts his legacy.