Did Roy Jones Jr had quick reflexes or was it more instinct?

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  1. Thirdtonunn24

    Thirdtonunn24 Member Full Member

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    I’ve seen many people say that Roy Jones Jr had lightning quick reflexes, however, when I looked at his defensive highlights, it just seemed like he was reacting with instinct and finishing the job with speed.
    So, did he really have great reflexes or was it just him using his normal boxing instinct?
     
  2. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 B R B Full Member

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    He had a lot of things including intensive training from a very young age and a willingness to learn how and when to move.
     
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  3. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Which in essence is great reflexes .. which is probably the answer here .. Instinct being something not learned ,, His reflexes come to mind for me ,, Top 3 all time
     
  4. Glass City Cobra

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    You need to have very good reflexes to consistently dodge punches at the last second; even if the majority of those shots were anticipated. He would sometimes dodge entire combinations, not just one big hit.
     
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  5. Thirdtonunn24

    Thirdtonunn24 Member Full Member

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    What I mean by instinct is muscle memory, you practice dodging a punch until it becomes second nature, that kind of instinct.
     
  6. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    He had an absolute abundance of both.
     
  7. META5

    META5 Active Member Full Member

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    This.

    In combat sports, training intensively to dodge sequences of punches and then countering successfully is development of reflex until it becomes instinctive. Where you see people like Roy, Ali, Floyd, SRL, Duran, Toney be really good is not only do they dodge the punches they've trained to dodge, they improvise with their counters and react instantly to non-orthodox combinations too.
     
  8. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    For Roy, imo, it came down to just sheer reaction time and speed/agility to carry it through.

    I would interpret instinct as anticipation, conscious or unconscious, reading precursive, signalling movements - more perhaps in the realm of El Radar but not so much Roy.
     
  9. Unforgiven

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    Skill and practicing from an early age.
     
  10. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Quite a bit of it is actually trap setting and constantly setting and breaking expectations. Jones is one the best trap setters I've seen in a Boxing ring and was brilliant at wrecking rhythms. This is an ability not related as much to pure technique. Jones could dodge because the opponent threw the punches he wanted them to. This eventually becomes an intuitive process so you could say 'instinct' in a sense. He was also extremely focused and aware of his position and surroundings.

    His reactions were incredible, however. That is undeniable. But if it was just pure reaction he would've slipped and got sparked earlier than he eventually did.
     
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  11. Amos-san

    Amos-san Member Full Member

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    It was his crazy dad.
     
  12. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    more reflexes. Pernell Whitaker had the instincts as well as Floyd.
     
  13. Ali Holmes

    Ali Holmes Active Member banned Full Member

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    All I know is that RJJ sparks any 1940s light heavyweight
     
  14. KidDynamite

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    They are one in the same