Did Roy Jones Jr out-box Bernard Hopkins in 2010?

If FMJ dominates on 9/14, he will be dominating Drainelo. Canelo would still be undefeated.

In '02 Roy Jones was too big for Bernard Hopkins, and Roy already beat Hopkins with one hand. In '02 Roy Jones was the P4P King. That's why he said 60-40 I beat yo ass.

 

No, that's not what I'm saying. In this fight, Roy Jones was more entertaining than Hopkins. The crowd was more dazzled by what Roy was doing than what Hopkins was doing. Many of the crowd couldn't believe Hopkins hit the canvas that many times. But in the fights since Hopkins, Roy moved up in weight and hasn't performed as well and hasn't been as entertaining. Lets be real, this fight took a lot out of both guys. It was a war.

There is a difference between the Roy Jones that fought Lacy and Hopkins (in 2010) and the Roy Jones fights since. Hopkins also has slowed down. He got knocked down multiple times against Pascal and was safety-first vs Cloud. Roy was ready for the Hopkins fight. He trained and was in good shape for the fight. I think Roy's preparation and motivation has a lot to do wth how he performs.

 

Hopkins did do some work on the ropes, but it was back and forth. Hopkins's biggest rally was in the 2nd round which started when he headbutted Roy into the turnbuckle. In the 5th Roy was on the ropes for a good portion of the round, but also did a little rope-a-dope and landed some brutal uppercuts on Hopkins fighting off the ropes effectively.

In the 2nd half of the fight, Roy stayed more in the center of the ring. And in rounds 8-10 RJJ was clearly the aggressor and Hopkins was fighting off his backfoot. Hopkins was sent down with a double hook and was rabbit punching Jones all night. Hopkins only won a couple of rounds clearly. The rest were very even or Jones rounds. He throw more punches than Jones but Jones blocked a lot of Hopkins punches and made him miss a few times. As we know, throwing more punching, or even landing more punches via punch stat doesn't necessarily mean you won. Look at Malignaggi vs Broner and many other fights as an example. Jones was never really a volume puncher even in his prime. Neither is Hopkins for that matter.

Hopkins was hit more and in more trouble vs Jones in 2010 than any recent Hopkins fight since maybe the Taylor fights. Pascal 1 he was also in trouble, and I think Pascal learned a lot about how to fight Hopkins from that fight vs Jones.

 

Yeah I agree. That double hook sent Bernard down. He was in agony. And the reason why I created this thread was I felt like no one, and I mean no one, ever wanted to talk about what really happened in this fight. It was like the Hopkins fans were just trying to pretend like this was a domination of Roy and it really wasn't. We never heard people praise Roy's performance in this fight.

And it's not like I'm hating on Hopkins. He fought his tail off too. It was a good fight. It was a foul-plagued fight, but really the fouling was coming from Hopkins. Roy retaliated a few times, which he kinda had to do because Weeks wasn't warning Hopkins. Hopkins did bully Roy early, but Roy turned the fight around and put up with a lot of fouling.

Mind Reader, Hopkins was lucky he didn't get counted out. Weeks gave him all the time he needed. Admittedly they were borderline punches, but the double left hook landed in the same location on the belt as the Amir Khan knockdown on Judah.