Did Roy Jones Jr out-box Bernard Hopkins in 2010?

Loudon, are you sure that Hopkins was faking? I think he was really hurt from Roy Jones's punches. What I don't get is why people say this is such a bad fight. I mean what did you expect? And who made it bad? It was a better fight than their first fight. Their first fight was much more boring. Sure, it wasn't like Ali Frazier or something, but compare that fight to Hopkins most recent fight against Cloud. That was a snoozefest. At least RJJ Hopkins II was exciting. Sure both guys were past their prime, but it was interesting to see what happened.

With a different referee, Roy could have won the decision. If you take away the point deduction that went against Roy, and you give him credit for lets say 2 of the 3 potential knockdowns, you could end up with a UD for RJJ. And the ref could have also deducted a point for the Hopkins low blow.

You want to see my scorecard? How did you score it?

 

I watched this fight many times, probably like 10 times at least. So I'm going to post my scorecard, but I expect some people might say I DKSAB or call me a blind Roy fanboy or something. But for those people, I suggest you watch the fight again and look at it round by round and try to intelligently argue your points.

Let me start out by saying Bernard Hopkins did start out very strong. The 1st round could have went either way, but I gave it to Roy because he ended the round strong with a nice rally. It's understandable if you scored the first 4 rounds to Hopkins. But except for the 2nd, they were close rounds.

I am scoring this match based on clean effective punching. I realize Hopkins threw more punches and was more active, but as we saw in Malignaggi Broner, being active and out-throwing an opponent doesn't prove he won the fight!

For those that disagree with my scorecard, I encourage you to explain why my score is wrong and where you specifically disagree. I also should note that I am overriding the referee decisions in this fight, and factoring that into the scoring. I realize that is a no-no for the official judges, but in this fight I believe that the referee decisions affected the fight. I only scored 1 out of the potential 3 RJJ knockdowns a 10-8 round, so I think that shows that I am trying to be fair to the ref in how tough those decisions were to make in real time. Thank you.

Jones - Hopkins II, the rematch in 2010

Rd 1 : 10-9
Rd 2 : 9-10 (I ruled the Hopkins headbutt unintentional)
Rd 3 : 9-10

Hopkins 29-28 after 3 rounds

Rd 4 : 10-10
Rd 5 : 10-8 (I gave a close round to Roy and deducted 1 pt from Hopkins for the intentional low blow)
Rd 6 : 10-9 (I ruled Jones punch unintentional, no point deduction*)

Jones 58-56 after 6 rounds

*I gave Round 6 to Roy because that could have and probably should have been ruled a knockdown, and it wasn't. had it been ruled a knockdown, it would have probably been a 10-8 round for RJJ, so I thought 10-9 was a fair compromise. what happened though was Roy was deducted a point and Hopkins was probably given a 10-8 round himself on the official cards. This swung the fight in Hopkins favor, and it was unlucky, because Hopkins was bull-rushing him, and holding on to RJJ's hand, and all Roy did was throw a light punch that landed on the side of Hopkins's head. To give Hopkins a 10-8 round in this round is ridiculous, and could have just as easily been 10-8 for RJJ or 10-9 for either guy.

Rd 7 : 10-9 (ruled hopkins hitting on the break unintentional, very close round but I thought Roy won it)
Rd 8 : 9-9 (both fighters had rabbit punches, Bernard first, Roy retaliated - Roy was winning the round, but Hopkins landed a few after the rabbit punches so i scored it even - I know it's 10 pt must scoring, but I scored it 9-9 anyway. Roy was winning this round and showboating, that's why Hopkins rabbit punched LMAO)
Rd 9 : 10-9

Jones 87-83 after the 9th

Rd 10 : 10-8 (Jones punch unintentional and legal, on the beltline, I ruled it a knockdown)
Rd 11 : 9-9 (Hopkins won the round 10-9, but I ruled the Hopkins headbutt intentional - it was blatantly intentional and I thought a point should have been deducted from Hopkins)
Rd 12 : 10-10

Jones wins 116-110

I believe the stoppage loss to Green clouded a lot of people's view of Jones going into the fight. They literally gave Roy no chance of beating Hopkins coming off a 1st round TKO loss. So I think they were more willing to give the close rounds to Hopkins. They gave Hopkins every close call. I mean he got 5 minutes....3 TIMES!! That gave Hopkins a chance to recover otherwise it could have been a knockout!

I seem to be in the minority of people who actually liked this fight a lot. This is one of the more memorable fights to me of the last 10 years or so, while most people want to forget about it. I think it's incredibly telling of what type of boxer RJJ is and what kind of boxer Hopkins is. As other people have said, Jones won the event, by actually out classing Hopkins. By not resorting to dirty tactics like Hopkins did. The only difference is I believe that RJJ didn't just win the event, but actually should have won the fight!!

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