Did Roy Jones Jr out-box Bernard Hopkins in 2010?

You hate Roy that much, you won't allow yourself to take any information on board.

So what if Ruiz had a less than 60% KO ratio? That was against OTHER HW's!

It was a dangerous fight for Roy to take, and only a hater would argue otherwise.

With regards to Tarver, yes he crashed the post fight press conference. But Roy brushed it off at the time, and then pursued other fights at HW, with Tyson being his no.1 target.

So because he planned to fight again at HW he left the Ruiz weight on.

It was you who said he had 8 months to lose it.

I never said he kept it on for 8 months. I said he kept it on for a while, and he was still big when he signed for the Tarver fight.

Now while Murad was pursuing fights for Roy at HW, Tarver was still baiting Roy at every given opportunity.

So when the fights at HW didn't materialise, he took Tarver's bait and had to drop back to 175.

Nobody has mentioned anything about fighting Tarver at a months notice.

Roy had to burn through around ten pounds of muscle to hit 175, and it was done in a hurry at 35. It was dangerous and he weakened his body.

 

I love watching fanboys squirm.

So you have quoted an alleged cellphone call between Jones and his promoter as proof that a Jones / Lewis fight was on the cards. One in which he claims " Roy could get killed in there " but we dont want to be overly dramatic do we?:roll:

Grow up ffs.

Just for the record you do know that there is no medical evidence to link the adding, or losing of muscle mass to the slowing of reflexes don't you?

So just keep squirming about Jones **** performances against Tarver, and others as being down to the weight loss.

 

Me squirming?

Ha!

You're just dismissing everything and anything, because it doesn't suit your agenda.

Those links prove that Roy was up for the fight, and so was Lewis, until his performance against Vitali made him change his mind and call it a day.

The Tarver loss was a mixture of the weight loss, and age combined.

He'd had 50 fights.

He'd burnt through ten pounds of muscle.

Combine them together, and you've got a guy who wasn't physically or mentally at a 100%

Show me a fight where Roy has been as exhausted as the first Tarver fight.

You can't!

Tarver was a good fighter, but mentally and physically, they were at different points.

Tarver was pumped, and Roy was down because he'd lost the Tyson fight.

You'd got a guy who'd only had 20 + fights, who was 100% motivated, vs a guy who'd had 50 who wasn't as motivated.

That was the best of Antonio Tarver.

Did Roy beat better fighters than Antonio Tarver?

Yes or no?

Did Roy beat better fighters than Glen Johnson?

Yes or no?

Both of those fighters wouldn't have beaten Roy pre 2003, and we both know that.

 

No you're right, we never see judging influenced by those who pay their checks. That was really a 117-110, 118-109 bout.

 

No, what I hate is silly little fanboys like you.

C***s that spew endless revisionist crap about their heroes, because they are such sad little fvcks that they live their lives through osmosis, and because they are arrogant pricks who expect other people to take their schoolboy type worship of others seriously.

Jones Jr got old overnight, and despite the best efforts of your sycophancy, it was fvck all to do with gaining, and losing muscle mass.

 

Jones was getting old way before the Tarver bout. Moving up to HW and fighting someone slow helped disguise it.

 

Your posts are EMPTY!

Nothing but insults and bull****.

You keep telling me that you're intelligent, and know about boxing.

But you're saying that burning through his muscle fibres in a short space of time was nothing, and it had no effect on him?

You're clueless!

 

So foxy,

You are completely denying that the weight loss from Ruiz to Tarver had a negative effect on Jones?

 

Ha!

He says it was ONLY 7 POUNDS. Ha! Only?

He makes it sound as though Roy just lost some change out of his pocket and it was nothing.

Let him PM Iceman John Scully and ask for his opinion.

 

Absolutely.

As stated there is no medical evidence to suggest that the adding, or losing of muscle mass is related to the slowing of reflexes.

 

Now, will you apologist Jones fanboys either get back into the real world, or at the very least refrain from expecting the rest of us to join your idiotic one?

Please try to understand. The vast majority of internet boxing forum posters don't give a fvck about your opinions of the pond life garbage known as Roid Jones Jr.

 

Now that you are entering into the realms of conspiracy theories, would you like to give us your take on the World Trade Centre? ( Commonly known as 911 )

 

What part of tested positive for PED's can't you understand?