Did Roy Jones losing 20 lbs of muscle factor in him losing...

We talked about this before, I showed you the Mackie quotes and you seemed content with it. Was quite a bit ago, post/thread is gone or I would bring it up.

Roy wasn't trying hard. He didn't go out of his way saying he was 200lbs. I dont even remember he mentioning anything to the press about the scales being off but he does get mad in the video. Why would Roy say he hasn't been 193 for 6 weeks? Why would Mackie say he was 199?

Why would a different scale show him 7lbs HIGHER with those clothes off? I mean sure, walmart scales aren't perfect but you are not going to have a difference of 7lbs.

 

I dont remember him saying he was 186. There is no denying he cut muscle to make weight. If I could find photos of the weigh in for the first Tarver fight compared to any other weigh in for Jones he looked not nearly as good as he has before, his body was not the same.

 

Why do you keep talking about the first Tarver fight? You do realize that it was the SECOND Tarver fight that he was knocked out in, right? You guys always use this weight excuse as if it was the first Tarver fight. Jones himself has ALWAYS said, before and after the second Tarver fight that he was in perfect condition, the weight was easy, ect... He actually did a sit down interview with HBO where he actually blamed the loss on everything going too easy for him, and everything being too perfect, and smooth. He said that his training camp went too perfect... his weight was perfect.... his conditioning was perfect... the first round was too easy and it went perfect.... and then he got knocked out.

There is no excuse for that second loss. He simply got knocked out. He's only human.

 

Found it -

Look at Jones at the first Tarver fight

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Compared to their 3rd fight

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Im saying that it effected him and the reason he won the first time was because Tarver refused to pull the trigger. Tarver waited for Jones to go on the ropes, he never forced him.

Tarver went after Jones the 2nd fight and thats how he got the KO. Jones was there for the taking in the first fight. Tarver lost it and for whatever reason as Foreman. Tarver refuses to take advantage of anything.


Theres no excuse, he got caught, but he clearly was not the same fighter after the Ruiz fight, SPECIALLY after he hurt his body that. You could tell he slowed, and his reflexes were even worst.

 

Jones should of retired after the first Tarver fight.

He clearly was not the same fighter. As we all saw what happened.

 

the Glass in the Jaw

 

How much extra weight was in the beard?

 

That steroid thing about Roy is annoying as hell. People act like he was injecting all kinds of stuff. It's as annoying as the Shane haters thinking taking roids for a few weeks before the ODLH fight makes him some massive cheat! I'd like to hear Widdowmaker comment on these past problems myself!:good What about the robot sisters taking roids when they were still in the Russian boxing program?:rasta

 

Did

Small amounts? What was it, 3 or 4 times over the legal amount?

Over the counter supplements my ass. What do you mean "besides" the Hall fight. How many instances of being caught with anabolic steroids in the system do you need for it to be part of your past? I could understand if it was medically prescribed for an injury or something... but he was simply juicing. That time he got caught. I am sure you also believed Mosley when he tried to play it off like he didn't know he was injecting illegal substances into his system.:-( As if these athletes really just inject stuff into their bodies and have no idea what they are doing. You guys are just too damn gullible.

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