Did Roy Jones losing 20 lbs of muscle factor in him losing...

So they don't have power? You said he has a glass jaw, you don't need 1 punch KO power to knock out a glass jaw...

And they DID had good power.

 

So you are going to tell me the Jones/Toney fight was an exciting fight? It was boring and neither guy was willing to engage and the Hopkins fight was the same way.

 

Someone post that Lou Del Valle video.

 

have you even seen either fight or looked at the punch stats?

 

Yes, and they DID caught him him good punches, if they weren't knock out punches is completely irrelevant since you stated that Jones has a glass jaw.

Like I said, if he really was a glass jaw why didn't those punches bother him.

 

I don't believe that Roy has a glass chin. I do believe that Roy wasn't used to being hit, so he didn't always react the best way when it happened. That is to be expected. However the glass jaw label is thrown around way too much. You don't go as far as Roy did with a glass jaw without it being exposed sooner. In my opinion the downfall with Roy came when people realized that you have to punch WITH Roy. You have to punch when he punches. People used to get into pose downs with him in the center of the ring and he would pot shot the **** out of them. His reflexes and speed were greater than theirs. Tarver proved that Roy is vulnerable if you throw your punches as he is throwing his. He showed it in the first fight, but wasn't confident enough to keep following up. In the second fight, he scored a knockout by exchanging with Roy. Glen Johnson saw this, and he didn't give Jones the respect either... and he knocked Roy out as well. His old opponents simply showed him too much respect... and that isn't a knock on Roy, that's just the way it is. They weren't good enough fighters to bring out the faults in Roy. The best two other fighters in Roy's division... which was already very thin... were DM and Tarver. Roy never fought DM, and when he finally fought Tarver we saw what happened.

Roy was obviously a great boxer, and had loads of talent. However he was not shot or over the hill when he lost to Tarver. Nor was he weight drained as if he had become a natural heavyweight or something. Tarver simply wanted it bad enough, McGirt had always said that he knew how to beat Roy and it happened. Once other fighters saw that, they stopped showing Roy the same respect in the ring. If you noticed against Johnson and Tarver... if they stood in the center of the ring with him and played the feint game, Roy would go right back to looking like his old self. You don't go from being without a doubt the #1 pd 4 pd fighter in the world to being shot within 6 months. That's just silly.

 

Weeks to lose? LOL. The first Tarver fight was over 8 months after the Ruiz fight. This was also a fight Roy won. This is the garbage I am talking about when dealing with Roy Jones nuthuggers. Roy had plenty of time to adjust back to Light Heavyweight. It is all just excuses because their hero got exposed as a complete Glass Jawed joke and a fraud.

 

Damn this thread is 17 pages long!!!! STILL GOIN 2!!!

 

ok Dr. Rico...