Did Roy Jones losing 20 lbs of muscle factor in him losing...

This is what I wrote a couple of posts ago...lol. Maybe you forgot.

The underlined doesn't even make sense lol. You were better off saying Jones only had to lose 18 lbs of muscle dumbass lol. 175+18=193 lol. Jones weighed in at 193, and I gave him maybe 2 lbs since he probably ate that night lol. What excuse am I giving lol. You keep on saying i'm making excuses... Name one excuse that I gave in this thread...lol.

 

So you're saying that Roy didn't have to weigh in at 175 for the first Tarver fight?

 

I'm going to explain it like this...from a former fighters point of view. Jones weighed in at 193 for Ruiz. Maybe he ate a meal and went to say 195, maybe not lol. Now say Jones made weight at 175, and gained 10-11 lbs after the weigh in. My point is that just because he rehydrated back to 185-186 doesn't mean he rehydrated his weight properly.

That weight gain is a fascade, and that is my point. Your body's reaction to the weight loss by gaining after the weigh-in is because your body is asking for food period. The food you eat to lose weight is not the same food you eat to rehydrate. What hurts fighters is that the slow digestion process of new food introduced to the body after the weigh in is digested slowly, and does not give the body the full ATP it needs for normal body/muscle function.

If you have ever been through a training camp, or witnessed a fighter having to lose normal weight(fat) or a lot of weight, you can begin to understand what fighters go through when they have to lose weight. Fighters who have to lose a lot of weight eat lettuce or some kind of greenery to help the food pass through you, and mix it with food that keeps your energy up in the process. Fighters like Jones and Tarver had to lose weight and muscle, and look how they struggled when they did this. Jones lost his energy after 6 rounds against Tarver in fight 1, and Tarver lost his energy after maybe 6 rounds against Hop. Now both Toney and Gatti who made weight, and then gained like 20 lbs of weight after the weigh-in did not have energy to fight a full 12 rounds either...why?

Now why is this when Hatton can gain as much as Gatti and Toney and still fight for 12 after coming down maybe 30 lbs? My conclusion is that Toney and Gatti either didn't train hard enough or they had to lose too much weight in between fights too many times which left them with little energy. With Toney and Gatti's history of making weight, you hopefully see my point. There is a difference betwen losing weight(normal fat) and losing weight/muscle. You see my point? They didn't over eat when rehydrating. Their bodies asked for it. Jones could've ate two meals after the weigh-in and rehydrated back to 185-186.

 

After all that I wrote, you still didn't get what I said??? I never said anything about Roy having to lose weight at heavy, cut weight or anything like that. I assumed that he ate a good meal and put on something. This water weight thing is also misunderstood because water weight can also be a fascade to what you truly lost when you gain and lose weight.

I mean look at the fight between Jones and Tarver in fight 1. Are we to believe that the weight loss didn't affect him one bit? Then we have to say it didn't affect Tarver against Hop, and i know that it did. Putting on weight/muscle, and constantly exercising to be able to make that added weight/power work for you is hard work. Day after day, eating and working out...packs that weight on perfect.

Jones didn't lose a beat against Ruiz. Whether easy or hard, losing the weight will affect you because you are not losing just fat. We all keep disagreeing on how much Jones weighed and lost. This is where we are all bumping heads. Do I really think Jones weighed in at 193 no, but I know he put on weight/muscle but I'm answerng on maybe, maybe not. My point is that he did add muscle/weight. He came in cut for that fight...not with a belly full of fat like toney when he moved up. Jones himself waited until the last minute to lose the weight. Jones was a hard worker, and it wouldn't take him months to lose that weight. Tarver even told us how hard it was to lose that weight. Mason Dixon and Superman were affected by he weight loss in big fights.

 

Imo, those are numbers...but it doesn't tell what Jones truly lost. To pack on the proper weight and keeping your speed and power, you have to eat, eat, eat and work, work, work... You don't lose that, and then gain 11 lbs and say that Jones only lost 7 lbs from 193...you know that. Tarver complained about Jones doing this, and it seems karma hit Mason Dixon.