Did Roy Jones start losing at LHW when his competition stepped up?

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    It wasnt me that gave over that info dipsh#t, still either way you have just proven that Joe.Boxer is correct and that
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    Well done for admitting the truth, as painful as it has been for some of you delusional fanboys.

    You see now.
    Michalczewski was stripped of his WBA LHW title that he won
    Michalczewski had to relinquish his IBF LHW title due to being forced to have to defend his title within 30 days when he has just fought the LHW champ
    Michalczewski beat Rocchigiani who was wrongly stripped of his WBC LHW title, a title which was just handed to Jones when he said he wanted it back, even though Rocchigiani fairly won the title after beating a fighter Jones wouldnt fight for years. So here Jones was just handed the WBC title.
    Jones was just handed The Ring belt that he didnt beat the champ for.

    Simperial got well and truly owned by Joe.Boxer :lol: and SImperials cheer leaders now look a bunch of cocks :yep
     
  2. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    On 13 June 1997, he defeated Virgil Hill over 12 rounds to add Hill's WBA and IBF titles to his own. However, Michalczewski soon lost both titles. The WBA stripped him for displaying its belt along with that of the WBO, an organization it didn't recognize. The IBF did so a few weeks later, when Michalczewski was unable to defend his title against mandatory challenger William Guthrie within 30 days.


    Disputed undisputed championsIf a fighter wins all the titles but is stripped by one organization of its title, he may continue to be considered the undisputed champion.

    Roy Jones Jr. was promoted as the undisputed light heavyweight champion by HBO after unifying the WBA, WBC and IBF titles in June 1999, for which he was also awarded The Ring championship title in 2002. However, two of those belts (WBA and IBF) had been stripped from Dariusz Michalczewski, who had unified them with his WBO title by beating the Lineal champion Virgil Hill in June 1997, and subsequently remained unbeaten, defending his remaining belt until 2004. Speaking of Jones' claim to being undisputed champion, one writer opined that the distinction "could just as easily belong to current WBO titlist Dariusz Michalczewski
     
  3. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I have tried to have a look at what you wrote and spot on in your pwnage of Imperial and Whipdatass and making Realsoulja just look like a hanger on to those two :good was fantastic on your part

    Hill/Michalczewski happend on 13th of June 97

    - The fight was originally planned for April 5, but was postponed first to April 19 ("to get an appropriate site" according to IBF president Robert W. Lee), then moved again to June 13.
    - On March 7, 1997, a federal judge Dickinson R. Debevoise of U.S. District Court at Newark, N.M., ruled that the IBF must give its leading light heavyweight contender a title shot by July 19 or face a fine because it harmed the fighter by breaking its own rules. Under the ruling, No. 1 contender William Guthrie had to fight the winner of the April 19 match between IBF champion Virgil Hill and WBO champion Dariusz Michalczewski within 90 days of the bout.
    - On May 10, 1997, words of IBF president Robert Lee were reported in the press, that the IBF stripped Hill of his title because "we had to follow the order of the court," which had ordered that Guthrie must get an IBF title fight by July 19. (Sources: The Washington Times, May 10, 1997; The Washington Post, May 10, 1997; St. Petersburg Times, May 10, 1997; Houston Chronicle, May 11, 1997; Denver Rocky Mountain News, May 11, 1997; Los Angeles Daily News, May 12, 1997)
    - After the fight it was reported that Michalczewski's promoter Klaus-Peter Kohl said: "Guthrie is Don King's man and we don't want to do any business with him." Kohl has said he is hoping an arrangement on juggling title defences can be worked out with the WBO and WBA. (Sources: Glasgow Sunday Mail, June 15, 1997; The People, June 15, 1997)
    - Thus, the IBF title was declared vacant.
    - Immediately after this fight, Michalczewski also was stripped by the WBA for holding the WBO belt together with the WBA belt. (Cyber Boxing Zone)



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    - In his previous bout in March 21, 1998, Rocchigiani had won the vacant WBC Light Heavyweight Title. However, shortly after that fight the WBC illegally down-graded Rocchigiani's classification to that of an 'interim' champion, and then stripped him outright. Rocchigiani sued the WBC and was awarded $31 million in damages. Also as a result of this lawsuit, a United States District Judge retroactively restored Rocchigiani’s official WBC Light Heavyweight championship status in April 2003, but only from 03-28-1998 up until the date of this bout.
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    Where it says this bout at the end of the paragraph, that was when Rocchigiani fought Michalczewski, So even there, there could be a bigger argumant for Dariusz winning the WBC title, not that we need to go over this anymore.

    I think certain posters now need to pick themselves up and gracefully accept defeat. Team Elite wont gloat and will let these certain posters suffer in silence
     
  4. Joe.Boxer

    Joe.Boxer Chinchecker Full Member

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    Yeah, I'M RIGHT, you're wrong, yet again. Everyone is taking me seriously, and they can see you're a complete joke. Here are some sources for you;

    http://www.boxing.com/dariusz_michalczewski_in_the_hall.html

    "he added Hill’s WBA and IBF titles to his cache, but the WBA, in typically despicable behavior, stripped him for displaying its belt along with that of the WBO, an organization it didn’t recognize."


    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=2882&more=1

    "The new WBA, WBO, IBF and linear world champion would, however, soon find out that in boxing, happy endings rarely happen.

    The WBA suddenly informed Universum that it was stripping its new champion because it did not recognize the WBO belt he still wore."



    http://www.boxingtitlefights.com/in...sBoxingU&id_org=1&id_division=15&id_nation=22

    "Lou Del Valle captured vacant WBA light heavyweight title after Dariusz Michalczewski was stripped of the title for displaying its belt along with that of the WBO, an organization it did not recognize."


    ****ing idiot. SCHOOLED AGAIN, *****.

    Nonsense. DM beat better fighters than Del Valle when defending his WBO title. De Valle was just another contender to DM, you clown. There was no time for a DM-Del Valle fight to even be considered, because DM got stripped of his WBA title immediately after winning it. Stop pulling complete bull**** out of your gaping sore *******. You're only embarrassing yourself.

    You're the abortion that wouldn't die. You've been *****-slapped all around this forum, kid. With this debate long lost for you, and your credibility ruined, you're just continuing to lie, deny the truth, making yourself look an even bigger fool than you already are.

    SIMperial just got battered, yet again. Thoroughly destroyed and proven wrong on every single issue.
     
  5. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Finally. Thank you.
    GImperial just doesnt grasp it at all and he has idiots cheering him on for his nonsense
    I explained it to him similar to like you have just done a while back and he still couldnt grasp it, then we had Realsoulja acting as a cheer leader trying to insinuate that we consider N Cleverly as the lineal champ, because he cant grasp the beating the man to be the man and thinks its about the WBO :patsch.
    I think maybe now they are starting to get it, but I wont be convinced until they admit they got it wrong
     
  6. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ****s sake, you're all still going?!

    Try this for a soloution lads; Boxing is a subjective sport so it's okay to disagree?

    (Translated, that means shut up.)
     
  7. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Of course its OK to disagree, but some have been very wrong and are being helpfully corrected.
    You dont have to enter into the debate if you dont wish. If you dont wish to, dont come onto the post and ask others to shut up.
    Its become an interesting debate that Joe.Boxer has single handly owned
     
  8. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You idiot, persistance and articulation are all you have. Your comments are facetious to the point of insulting.

    Accept that differing opinions are welcome aand neccesary for this sport to survive and thrive.
     
  9. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Run along off this thread.
    If you do your research you can see that I have not been on this fantastic thread for a while before yesterday.
    What differing opinions are you going on about? The subject has altered now to Jones and Michalczewski.
    I only insult posters who insult. Here you are the one issuing out the insults.
    What is facetious to the point of insulting about the comment below?
    This will be good


    You see now.
    Michalczewski was stripped of his WBA LHW title that he won
    Michalczewski had to relinquish his IBF LHW title due to being forced to have to defend his title within 30 days when he has just fought the LHW champ
    Michalczewski beat Rocchigiani who was wrongly stripped of his WBC LHW title, a title which was just handed to Jones when he said he wanted it back, even though Rocchigiani fairly won the title after beating a fighter Jones wouldnt fight for years. So here Jones was just handed the WBC title.
    Jones was just handed The Ring belt that he didnt beat the champ for.
     
  10. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Oh dear, now bailey and sjs! This thread just won't die! lol





    Erdei, good champ I wish his fights were much more accessible same with DM

    Jones, great talent but overrated and a cheat who may have been handed things as bailey mentions. Him and DM really should have fought to end things but unfortunately it didn't happen. TBF he did beat Gonzalez who later went on to defeat DM but DM may have been past it at that point

    Team Elite does have an agenda against Jones which I don't know why, guy got ktfo what more do you want? Constantly hatin a fighter aint doing a thing but promoting him just get to the guys y'all like and move on.


    My share
     
  11. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have zero intrest in debating with Bailey. It'll lead to more pages in this thread and I doubt either of us can mention something that hasn't been covered in the previous 41 pages.

    I'd rather discuss technique and tactics than give him a stage to express his agenda further.
     
  12. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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  13. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    so after calling me out, I asked you to answer my points and you then back track.
    Tells me you came with an agenda to make comments which didnt turn out as you wished
     
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    That's cause he will crush you
     
  15. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    :good :lol: