Did Roy Jones start losing at LHW when his competition stepped up?

It aint ova until yo momma sings.

I have butt-****ed that ****** Imperial1 raw, and all you can admit to is Team Elite earning a stale mate? **** you. I've absolutely annihilated him, so tell the truth.

 

Nigel Benn was talking about the super middleweight division.

And you have been quoted admitting Jones was a paper champion.

 

Well you're getting a ****, dropped straight into your open mouth.

Says the biggest sucker of Jones' tiny roid nuts on esb. I'm not even a DM fan.

No, you don't. You have no idea.

No stupid, it was the best fighting the best, crowning a new Lineal champion [EDIT: This is obviously referring to Maske vs Hill, you utter, utter simpleton.]. Gonzalez won the Lineal title because he had the balls to challenge the champion DM. Jones wouldn't even wait until DM got old then fight him, the cherry picking fraud.

What the **** have the sanctioning bodies' and their rankings go to do with the Lineal title you stupid gimp. Go put your gimp suit back on and chain yourself up. It's insulting that you even DARE to try and debate with me.

Congratulations. You just proved yourself wrong again.

Lineage came from the top ranked fighters, who were usually the title holders, meeting in the ring to determine the true Lineal champion. The only reason you don't buy it is because your hero Jones didn't become Lineal champion.

I've thoroughly schooled you over and over, and proved you wrong on every point you make. Fact.

No there aren't. I'm always right on this, and you are always wrong. The Lineage isn't 100% perfect, but I never claimed it was.

I'm right, and my arguments are backed up by over 100 years of boxing history. You are a brain dead vegetable, armed with wikipedia.

I've given you one of the most devastating beatings in esb history. Fact.

Joke site created with Notepad by 12 year olds. Good work detective.

 

Are you trying to dispute over an undisputed issue.

Unified champ: RJJ (WBC, WBA, IBF)
Undiputed champ: RJJ (held the major belts)
Lineal champ: Polish man (beat Hill the previous Lineal champ)

Since RJJ was the undisputed LHW king, there really aint no debate about his legitimancy about his number 1 spot.

If you are lineal champion, that dont mean you are the #1 in the division. But now you should read on about why I bought up a SMW, the real soldier Nigel Benn.

Same context.

You state DM was the #1 of the LHW division because he beat the previous Lineal champion.

But when Nigel Benn called RJJ the #1 of the SMW division, the Lineal champ was Frankie Liles Nunn or Steve Little. So are you going to say now that:-

Frankie Liles, Nunn or Steve Little was the #1 SMW in the world not RJJ or Benn or Toney for that matter?

Lineal belt dont mean **** until you are the undisputed champ, then its something.

See I aint here to debate over opinions or use opinions like they are concrete evidence.

That was an opinion I once had but I have withdrawn such statements and have accepted Roy Jones Jr to be the main man, the division king of the LHW scene.

That quote probably from some years back, where I was experimenting with pwnage techniques such as the possum pwnage, where I would try and draw the opponent into a toe to toe battle.

 

More indication on why the Lineal champion dont mean you the #1 of a division.

Check the SMW Lineal champ, lineage for instance.

Chong-Pal Park (1984-1988|
Fulgencio Obelmejias (1988-1989)
In-Chul Baek (1989-1990)
Chris Tiozzo (1990-1991)
Victor Cordoba (1991-1992)
Michael Nunn (1992-1994)
Steve Little (1994)
Frank Liles (1994-1999)
Byron Mitchell (1999-2000)
Bruno Girard (2000-2001, vacates)
Joe Calzaghe (2006 to present)

When you look at that list, it looks like the SMW division is one heck of a **** division. But there are many great SMW's that were probably the main men that have not been listed in that lineage.

Sugar Ray Leonard, WBC SMW champ from 1988 - 1989
Graciano Rocchigiani, IBF SMW champ, 1988 - 1989
Tommy Hearns, WBO SMW champ from 1988 - 1990
Chris Eubank, WBO SMW champ, 1991 - 1994
Nigel benn, WBC SMW champ from 1992 - 1996
James Toney, IBF SMW champ, 1993 - 1994
Steve Collins, WBO SMW champ, 1994 - 1997
Roy Jones Jr, IBF SMW champ, 1994 - 1996
Charles Brewer, IBF SMW champ, 1996 - 1998
Robin Reid, WBC SMW champ from 1996 - 1997
Joe Calzaghe, WBO SMW champ, 1997 - vacation.
Svenn Ottke, IBF SMW champ, 1998 - retirement

These fighter I listed were never considered lineal champions (except Calzaghe)

So anyone who thinks that because you have the lineal championship it automatically warrants the #1 position also thinks the following.

Michael Nunn > James Toney atsch
Chong Pal Park > Sugar Ray Leonard atsch
Byron Mitchell > Svenn Ottke
Victor Cordoba > Eubank/Benn

That is why realsoulja, involved a real soldier into the discussion to prove the following fact (that I would put in big bold letters):-

Just because you are the lineal champ dont make you number 1 in the division

I hope that really clears up the situation because I want to go back to commentating.

 

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Mother****er your only claim is talking that lineal ****. That doesn't take brains. Mother****er you ain't smart, lmfao! Outside of dissing Jones, you don't know **** about boxing mother****er. **** you, Tarver, and Team Eatmyass!

 

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And a site written by 12 yr olds ,please tell me then why so many sites are opposed to cyberzon's ranking system excpet for ***gots like you who use it as Gospel ? ****ing dumb ass !

You don't even know the meaning of true lienage ,I even put data to support what true lienage is the rest of us can see it blind men can see it but for a genius like you it must be hyrogliphics ! True lienage get the **** out of here FRAUD !


Jones actually had more claim then DM based on the 100 yrs of the history you think you know !

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"Hill lost to Dariusz Michalczewski, and Michalczewski embarked on a quest to face the most obscure opponents he could find. He fulfilled this quest by finding the likes of Darren Zenner and Muslim Biarslanov to pound on. Who were these guys? Maybe nobody knows. There was a strong argument that he essentially boxed his way out of contention by feasting on one soft touch after another. Why should he be rewarded for taking such an easy path?
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Roy Jones was 35 when he started losing.

 

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A lot of the viewing public have been in complete shock and awe at this ongoing battle where despite devastating blows being connected, these two men have shown solid chins in the process.

So when is this fight going to end?

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Both posters have dedicated years of training camp and are willing to give martyrdom in their strive for ESB immortality.

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When two fighters hate each other, Barrera Morales, expect this to go the full 45 rounds.

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Despite viscous blows being detonated on each others chin, both warriors seem to be enjoying the heated battle.

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People fight for many reasons, some for money some for fame while others for legacy. These two great warriors, Imperial1 and Joe.Boxer also have the passion and desire like many soldiers before them.

While one fights for the sake of boxing, the other remains steadfast in defending the honour of the infamously prestigious Team Elite.

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This is a fight, where neither fighter is discouraged and no respect exists between the two. Both feel they have what it takes to knock their opponent out.

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This fight aint just about lineal titles, P4P rankings or legendary statuses. There is alot more at stake between the two tremendous warriors.

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I think it is clear this fight will be going the distance, for more information on 45 round fights please visit my recent thread on the topic where you can share and learn more about 45 rounders.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=388765

 

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