Did Roy Jones start losing at LHW when his competition stepped up?

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A brilliant jab was thrown at Joe.Boxer which had his chin shaken up and his legs wobbley, since he is trying to regain composure he tried to avoid the situation:-

A very good question.

Who ranked Hill and Maske as #1 and #2. I personally think they were #1 and #2 but would like to know how they came to decide that Hill vs Maske is for the lineal championship.

Was it CyberBoxingZone rankings?

Or was it because Hill and Maske were beltholders and it was a general consensus they are #1 and #2

Please no ducking.

 

As shown in the image, Larry Merchant thinks WTF. Imperial handed you

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ass.

 

if you added up bailey's and team elite aswell as the chincheckers and all of the various alts average posts per day, it would have came up to something like 176 posts per day.

But since Imperial1 has been killing off these folks in brutal fashion, bailey has shown major inactivity thus being stripped of his #1 challenger and will be forced back to fight the ESB cockroaches Lance and ko artist.

 

Maske was regarded as the best fighter in the division. He was the favourite in Maske vs Hill. They were rated #1 and #2. DM hadn't really done anything to overtake them.

Jones was still undecided about whether to stay at 168lbs iirc.

No need to duck this, seeing how I'm far more knowledgeable than both of you combined.

 

Thank you for an informative answer.

 

I thought you were a good sport? No need to start being a ***** just because you tried to stick your nose into my debate and got burned.

 

No problem man, you Imperial1 both have become living ESB legends regardless.

And both should now have mutual respect for one another, so should be coming to a conclusion.

Which is:-

Jones was the best.
DM was the division champ.
Jones was the division #1 king.
DM was the lineal champ.
Jones was undisputed champ.

And leave it at that.

 

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:hi:

 

No, you completely misunderstood a simple point. Hence you had your wires badly crossed. You're the one who ignores the actual Lineal history, because you're a blind Jones fanboy. You lying hypocrite.

No, I'm 100% right. Maske vs Hill was the best vs the best, which created a new Lineage. I wasn't even talking about Gonzales and Erdei, you dumb mother****er.

The Lineal title was vacant when Hill vs Maske unified. The WBC champion then moved up to cruiserweight, then Hill unified with the WBO champion who had held his title since 1994. Irrefutable Lineage created.

Again, stop only thinking of "belts".

Not when they're stole from the unified, Lineal champion.

No, I've posted a thorough history of the lineal championship, and recognize all the Lineal champions you lying twat. LOL. How could I pick and choose which Lineal champions I recognize? You absolute spastic.

My argument was a guaranteed easy victory from the begining. You have been effortlessly owned once again.

 

And I was talking about Gonzalez and Erdei since in your eyes the lineal title always pitted the best against the best


Hill and Maske only unified two 3rds of the majors Ibf and Wba ..They never unified the division like Spinks did previously which made him the LINEAL CHAMP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He like those 2 Never beat a previous champ but by Unifying the 3 majors he became the next champ in line from those belts the same belts you want me to just dismiss but are the reason lineal is even being discussed and carried on !

You then have the # 1 and 2 fighting for a vacant lineal title ..Its funny that you say sanctioning bodies don't have anything to do with it but how could they not when both guys were belt hollders and the winner was declared the champ ? I wonder if Maske's title defenses had anything to do with how he got ranked so high ..Or was it just an independant ranking system that was used



Did those belts not matter why were they on the line to begin with ? See its these basic things that you continue to overlook ! But yet when DM is stripped of those belts then they matter !

Flip flop flip flop flip flop !

Again the belts don't matter when other fighters had them, but when they stripped DM of them they do matter ,I get it now ..Yet im the fanboy :rofl

 

Was Frazier undisputed before he defeated Ali? Was Tyson undisputed before he defeated Spinks?

 

NO, I never said the lineal title always pitted the best against the best. I never said anything of the sort, you lying window licking spastic. You're trying to create another straw man argument because you've been proven completely wrong again.

DO you realize you're laughing at your own stupidity?

No, Spinks beating Qawi created a Lineal champion. They also held the two titles.

Maske and Hill the top 2 in the division, and started the new Lineage. Period. The WBC title was vacated after they fought, and the Maske vs Hill winner even unified the WBO. More legit than Jones ever came close to being.

No, there were only 2 titles then you ******. The titles were more legit back then, and unifying the titles was far easier. I only dismiss paper titles like those stripped from DM.

Newsflash moron - the top fighters usually happen to also hold the titles.

Maske and Hill were both the rightful holders of their titles. DM was stripped of the WBA/IBF for bogus reasons and had rightful claim to Jones' paper WBA/IBF titles. See the difference? Probably not as you're ******ed.

No flip flopping at all, you're just too dumb to see the obvious truth and keep misunderstanding every other time you get schooled.

No, you've just confused yourself yet again. Maske, Hill, DM were the top fighters and unified titles.

Jones claimed to be undisputed champion despite not beating any of the rightful title holders, or the Lineal champion.

Hence Jones = paper champion. Fact

OWNED AGAIN.

 

Joe.Boxer

I'm making up things right

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Unified does not necessarily equal undisputed.

 

rules are rules, Hill and Makse were top 2 in the division and they
started the new linage, that's the rules. There is no need to unify
any titles but they did which is strong point to add to this.

DM beat Hill and took his lineal title, it doesn't matter whether he
unified the titles but he did unified three of them, and it doesn't
matter if one of them was WBO not WBC.

Roggiciani was as right to have WBC belt as Jones since they both
won the vacant belts. DM beat Roggicianni after he got stripped
non-rightfully and his WBC was HANDLED to Jones ... so all the
belts Jones Jr won was either vacant or stripped from other rightful champions.

That you can argue Jones was a paper champ ... but I personally think its harsh
he just was not the real man in the division neither he had the lineal title.