Did Roy Jones start losing at LHW when his competition stepped up?

NO. You have been exposed as a LIAR. It's pretty pathetic of you to have to resort to trying to twist what people say and blatantly lie about what they mean. It shows how desperate and what a kind of person you are.

Paper titles, moron.

:roll: you complete and utter spastic. It's you who's been thoroughly educated on history. My link on the history was far more detailed and accurate because I added info myself. You simply blindly posted a link of the history which you didn't even realize proved you wrong. All the previous champs boxed for the vacant title, some even having a tournament. Jones didn't.

Brain-dead twat.

I thought in your opinion you had to hold the WBC/WBA/IBF titles to become undisputed champion. He didn't when he beat Tarver. You're slipping up badly now.

If Jones was the recognized champion at 175lbs (which he wasn't), and returned to light heavyweight after beating Ruiz to defend his 175lb championship, then he didn't relinquish his title in the first place. Even The Ring maintained their recognition of Jones during this period (despite being wrong). You stupid ****ing ****. LOL @ You.

Yes, compared to you I am THE esb authority on this subject, as how you have proven over and over that you have no idea what the **** you're on about.

No, YOU are really clueless. You have been asking ME questions, because I'm far more knowledgeable than you on the subject. It's impossible for your arguments to hold any water because you manage to always be wrong .

My arguments are backed up by 100 rich years of boxing history, and the top fighters and title holders meeting in the ring. You've gotten your argument from watching HBO and believing the sanctioning bodies' corruption. You are now also contradicting yourself.

At least try to say something convincing. You're only making a complete fool of yourself.

You lied, created fake arguments, and don't even understand the basic facts being spelled out.

Yes, the WBO champion did. He was one of the top rated fighters. That's why he became the Lineal, unified champion while Jones was waving an interim title around.

No, everyone has had a great laugh at your nonsense, and complete humiliation. I don't need to reach for help. Your esb posting career has been destroyed in this debate. You've been Lacy'ed, kid. Your ******* must look like something out of a Sasha Grey porno by now.

 

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Rocchigianni's WBC title was taken from him.

The previously holder, Jones, had won the vacant interim title against an ancient 40 year old McCallum. PAPER title. Eventually the champion Tiozzo relinquished the belt. Rocchigianni won the vacant WBC title Jones relinquished while DM was the Lineal champion. DM had already beaten Rocchigianni, and went on to beat him again.

Tarver was never undisputed champion, you stupid brain-dead turd.

The paper titles which belonged to DM? Del Valle & Johnson picked up those paper titles and were paper champions, thus Jones was a paper champion, you paper-brained abortion.

You are a complete and utter vegetable. You definitely have some serious mental condition. Aspergers or autism. I am proving you wrong, thoroughly schooling you, and humiliating you on every single ******ed statement you make. FACT.

I know more about the history than you will ever have the intelligence to know. You don't have a chance. That's why I am destroying everything you say on this debate.

Tarver was never anything more than a title holder at light heavyweight. Fact.

Zolt Erdei and Gonzales were the Lineal champions. After beating Jones, Tarver gave up his two titles to instead become the IBO champ. IBO. And you're laughing at the WBO?

LOL @ you. Brainwashed clown.

They were the Lineal champions. Gonzales beat the legit, Lineal champion DM after DM finally got old.

The only 'idiotic statements' are the points you hopelessly try to argue. I've repeatedly destroyed you and proven my far superior credibility in his debate over and over.

I have more boxing intellect than you could ever hope to have. I prove you wrong on every point, then insult you for being so stupid. Fact. You are clearly a mentally deficient child.

 

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12339362&postcount=506

According to CyberBoxingZone website, the new boxrec of Team Elite, Michalczewski was the main man?

Is this true?. Be careful with your answer because a follow up will be brutal.

Please keep your answer within the relevant boundaries, (yes or no) or the response will be a severe pwnage.

Thank you.

 

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Team Elite General bailey was well known for being one of the greatest Boxrec warriors of ESB history, having legendary status in this field also winning many debates solely based on boxrec.:-

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12159643&postcount=108
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12033734&postcount=122
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12032954&postcount=89
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12007725&postcount=213
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11954416&postcount=67

However since the viewing public realised the incorrect use of boxrec, Team Elite was left stranded and didnt have a weapon to fire. But Joe.Boxer also a resound Team Elite General was able to get hold off, CyberBoxingZone, a website which Team Elite give more respect than, The Ring.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12389700&postcount=811

Could CyberZoneBoxing save Team Elite from expiry?

 

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According to CyberBoxingZone, in September 1995 the Lineal champion on the SMW division was :-

Frankie Liles.

http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/supermid.htm

However in September 1995 Cyber Boxing Zone gives the SMW rankings as:-

SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHTS
Champion: Roy Jones (IBF)
1. Nigel Benn (WBC)
2. Steve Collins
3. Chris Eubank
4. Frank Liles (WBA)
5. Bryant Brannon
6. Graciano Rocchigiani
7. Henry Wharton
8. Tony Thornton
9. Frederic Seillier
10. Steve Little

http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/box995.htm#phrank

With the Lineal Champ all the way down in 4th place.

This is what Joe.Boxer said earlier:-

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12389700&postcount=811

Proving what I have been saying for a

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time, matter of fact I will just quote it:-

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12381635&postcount=787

Cyber Boxing Zone also seems to agree.

 

Jones VACATED the title you ****ing gimp. *DM was wrongly stripped for bull**** reasons.

*Point kindly added for fakesouja's benefit (he missed the point).

There was already a legitimate Lineage being established when Jones won his vacant Interim title. He didn't "win if off McCallum". Jones was upgraded to champion in 1997, and was nothing more than a title holder.

Tarver was NOT stripped of the IBF title. WRONG AGAIN. He willingly relinquished it days before Jones vs Tarver despite having plenty of time to make his mandatory defense.

"Also, despite the tough talk, several days before the fight, Tarver relinquished his IBF championship belt. He claimed it was because he wouldn't be able to make a mandatory title defense for at least a year and a wait of that duration would be unfair to Clinton Woods and Glencoffe Johnson, who would be fighting on the eve of Jones-Tarver in a "mandatory elimination" bout."

http://www.secondsout.com/columns/thomas-hauser/roy-jones-and-rj1

WBO > IBO

Tarver gave up his titles to become IBO champ instead, so if you recognize Tarver as undisputed champion, YOU CONTRADICT YOUR WHOLE ****ING ARGUMENT.

Lies. DM didn't duck either of them. Both belts rightfully belonged to DM.

DM won them in the ring, and didn't lose them in the ring. They were taken off him for bogus reasons. They were rightfully his, and Del Valled/Johnson were paper champions. But that's still too difficult for you to understand. ******.

No, I said when crowning a new champion. Newsflash ******, Sometimes the world champion will lose to a lesser fighter, e.g. Lewis-Rahman, Foreman-Briggs etc

They were Lineal champion. Do you think Jean Pascal was some kind of great champion, too? Clown.

DM had been a title holder for nine years and Lineal champion for seven years. Newsflash, ******: fighters eventually slow down and get old.

Jones will be remembered as a supposed ATG who never defeated a Lineal, undisputed or unified champion in his WHOLE CAREER.

My arguments on the light heavyweight lineage are water tight, whereas you are constantly wrong on every point and your posts are full of inaccuracies. It's too damn easy humiliating you every time you post. 'I'll school you all day'.

 

I've already said I agree with that.

"Phrank Da Slugger" who did those rankings shows an inconsistency with his super middleweight rankings and the Lineage.

"Phrank's ratings are the best available -- even though he has not full adopted our list of Lineal Champions!"

http://cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/cbzrank.htm

 

**** Phrank Da Slugger

And **** Cyber Boxing Zone. For showing inconsistency.

 

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A rare turn of events has occurred in the ESB square circle, where Team Elite veteran, Joe.Boxer agreed with Imperial1.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12401796&postcount=866

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12402404&postcount=868

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This bout is seemingly coming close to its end, where Joe.Boxer will have the choice to use his rematch clause after agreeing with Imperial1's schooling of vacated titles.

 

Here is what I questioned you earlier:-

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12389614&postcount=809

To the question in blue, you responded:-

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12389700&postcount=811

You called

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who put the CyberBoxingZone together historians.
You called

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who put the CyberBoxingZone together, Credible.

This is what you said based on the evidence I have provided above. Now you are saying:-

Isnt Phrank part of

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who put CyberBoxingZone together.

Why are you giving misleading information that "All the guys" who put CyberBoxingZone are credible boxing historians, but at the same time you call them guys inconsistent, and at the same time you quote Phrank Da Slugger's ratings to the best available:-

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12402434&postcount=869

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showing some wobbly legs their my friend or I just misunderstood? :think

I know one is LHW division, and the other is SMW division, but the same laws apply not to just pick whatever you want and leave the other.

Hence proving my previous statement to be 100% Fact.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12402576&postcount=870

 

Jones VACATED his WBC title wheras DM had his WBA/IBF belts taken off him for bull**** reasons.

I've completely schooled GIMPerial1 you ****ing clown. Why don't you quote the times I've proved him wrong on his countless mistakes?

 

He's a rankings contributor. Some of their contributors also wrongly called Jones the "undisputed light heavyweight champion" in their posted articles. I said this pages ago. You should know by now I'm too slick to trip.

 

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After Imperial1 schooled Joe.Boxer on the topic of Vacated titles:-

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12401796&postcount=866

Joe.Boxer agreed right away:-

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12402404&postcount=868

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However, he did not stop there, Joe.Boxer continued to talk on and agree with Imperial1's schooling once again:-

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12402779&postcount=873

The injuries Joe.Boxer has suffered has begun to show. Not only are these injuries career threatening but also life threatening. We all hope for a swift recovery and for Joe.Boxers peers and colleagues to have patience.


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