Did Roy Jones start losing at LHW when his competition stepped up?

To be fair, Jones was the true LHW champ when he beat Tarver in their first fight. Tarver immediately got revenge though

 

He also has a Glass Jaw and no Plan B in a fight.

 

You don't say ..This is groundbreaking stuff :think

 

:dead

So now you admit your statement where you used words like ONLY and DEFINITELY has exceptional circumstances.

You on the back pedal now son.

So you think Floyd Mayweather was Top 2 ranked Lightweight despite never fighting at the weight class.

You are one dumb mo pucka.atsch

A fighter is ranked in the top 2 of a weight class without even ever fighting in the weight class is unheard off.

More :dead

Basically the point of mine and your debate was about:-

Who fights for the Vacant Lineal Championship

You held the opinion:-

It ONLY happens when ITS DEFINITELY the "best vs best"

And now that I schooled you on the topic you have changed your opinion, :good well done son admitting is the first step. If you want more schoolings on the topic you can look at how Wladimir Klitschko (#1) won the vacant HW lineal championship, when Vitali Klitschko was ranked #2 and the two brothers, like Calzaghe and Ottke, never fought one another.

Also, calm down on the smilies son, I am only allowed to post 10 so I have to take 2 away from your posts just so this post can post.

 

I have to agree.. Tarver was clearly THE Champ at LHW when Roy dropped from HW to beat him...

Historically not many fighters have done this.

 

For what he gained in legacy for this win, do you think it was worth the sacrifice? Obviously beating Tarver was a far better win than if he beat a shot Tyson or Holyfield, but his body took a long time to adjust when he moved back down, which affected him in his fights at LHW

 

Well according to Rico the expert on all things Roy Jones Jr he was never a champ ..Ever

 

...... No, Jones should have fought some people he didn`t in his prime but ultimately he was the best LHW of his time, a class or 2 above the men he ended up losing to past his prime when he (mistakenly) dropped back down from HW.

 

Floyd did defeat lightweights before Castillo.

Floyd Mayweather beat Emmanuel Augustus at Lightweight before facing Castillo.

You dont know **** about boxing.

 

I think so...

I don't think staying at HW would have been too great for him, he could not compete with the real big boys there, eventually he would have got knocked out. Maybe even by Corrie Sanders. Roy was already getting well into his 30's...

I think he should have retired directly after the Tarver 1 fight.. In hindsight of course... which is 50-50...
I count the Tarver KO against his legacy a bit, because he was still champ and pretty much unbeaten, not shot all the way... anything after that I don't really think hurts him.

Roy getting knocked out was inevitable, with the style he had, eventually time would turn, and he didn't have an iron jaw to help him either.

 

Are you completely ****ing ******ed? It's common knowledge that there's rare ****ing circumstances in the Lineal Championship. Well, common knowledge to anyone who has a clue what they're on about. Which obviously isn't you if you actually needing that pointing out.

My statement was comparing a vacant Lineal title fight to...a Lineal title fight, which you still probably don't get.

No, you are, "son". You thought you actually had a point but now realize it's a complete non-issue, but you're stuck with it now.

You took a big gamble with this nonsense, and failed in epic fashion. Unlucky.

I'll raise you one - he was viewed by many, if not the majority, as the best lightweight when he debuted there at title level.

But according to realsoulja "Mayweather was absolute nobody at lightweight" :rofl:rofl:roflatsch

I'm far smarter than you. With your ridiculous argument, you're now the dumbest **** in this thread. Congratulations - you are now my own personal punchbag.

You don't even know wtf you're on about you thick ****. You claim to be schooling someone else but you weren't aware of any rare circumstances in the Lineage you lying twat. You're fooling no one but yourself.

My opinion is EXACTLY the same. AGAIN you weren't aware of the full championship policy, and AGAIN you made a ****ing stupid mistake, further humiliating yourself.

 

He moved back down to 130lbs after the Augustus fight you stupid ****ing gimp atsch.

 

Do you think RJJ would have beaten a Shot Tyson. The Tyson that fought Lewis and Etinnie still was a formidable 2 round fighter. And Tarver dealt with RJJ in 2 rounds

 

I also don't really credit the weight loss to Roy's complete downfall...

It hurt him in the first fight where he pulled out a close win.. But he had time to recover and was well conditioned for the second fight.

I do think the weight loss at his age hurt his legs for sure, and took a little off of his reflexes that he relied on, and I think being 34 also had something to do with it, he was already slowing and starting to get hit a little more.

He was not completely shot in the second Tarver fight though, and had that not been Tarver, Roy probably would have won. Which is why Tarver needs to get some of the credit too..

After Tarver knocked him out, then he was shot in my opinion. Tarver put a shot on him that he would never recover from, especially not after his body was put through hell recently before at the age he was...

Multiple things come into factor when considering Jones' downfall.. Antonio Tarver was a big one on his own IMO.

 

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Joe.*****, Did Floyd Mayweather defeat any Lightweights before he fought Castillo?

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13576356&postcount=997

But Joe.*****, didn't Mayweather fight Augustus at Lightweight?

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13578050&postcount=1019

So Joe.*****, which one is it, Floyd DID defeat Lightweights before Castillo or Floyd DIDNT defeat Lightweights before Castillo:think

Still awaiting answer from Joe.*****

:roflatsch