Did Shogun Ever Explain What Happened In The Jones Fight?

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  1. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Popkins still going strong with the very selective reading, answering only some, or none, of the questions posed to him and logical fallacies, huh?

    I am shocked.
     
  2. horst

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    :lol: Sorry I have a little bit more to do with my time than pore over every ill-informed post that gets flung my way, dissecting each one with surgical precision. I have stuff to do, luckily my schedule allows me enough time to continually make note that Shogun has, more than once, looked sluggish, out of shape and diminshed when returning off a long lay-off due to injury/surgery. :good
     
  3. horst

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    This is the crux of the matter here. The knee did not render Rua a staggering, tottering, semi-conscious wreck, it was a good knee that Rua recovered from, but Jones's continued to punish him and this led to a stoppage. End of story.
     
  4. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yet you have the time to tell me that you do not have the time.

    Interesting.
     
  5. horst

    horst Guest

    :lol: Ooh, what a witty trap. I see what you did there.
     
  6. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Works more than once, too.
     
  7. horst

    horst Guest

    And again! Your skills are unquestionable, you dark sorceror.
     
  8. Thom

    Thom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Rubbish. He has a huge heart. Most other guys at LHW wouldn't have survived what he endured in the first four minutes of that fight.
     
  9. werety

    werety Active Member Full Member

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    I think what Rua meant by him never recovering from the knee, was that by the time he had recovered from the knee shot he was busy recovering from all the other forms of beat down Jones was putting on him. Sort of like a domino effect.
     
  10. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    I'm going to have to see something more from Shogun that blasting Forrest Griffin to convince me that he's ready for a return match with Bones. He really needs to clear out the top five before that can happen. I'd like to see him in with Rashad or Rampage again after he gets the ballzack from Jones.
     
  11. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

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    Exactly.

    I don't mean that this single knee ****ed him up for the next two or three rounds.

    I mean that, whatever Shogun's strategy was at the start of the fight, ten seconds into the fight it was out the window completely. Whatever he wanted to do, he never got a chance to execute it. Because that flying knee ruined his fight completely right out of the gate. After that knee landed, it was survival and nothing else. Rather than even attempting to set his own agenda, he was simply reacting to whatever Jones chose to do. And this was not a gradual process caused by Shogun being rusty or having limited mobility. It started ten seconds into the fight, because of the knee.

    If Jones was a lesser fighter, then yeah Shogun could probably have ridden it out.

    But Jones is good enough that, once Shogun was on the back foot immediately, he was never going to get back into the fight. That's why he lost. Because a better fighter hurt him straightaway and then beat the **** out of him before he could recover. Not because he was rusty or old or whatever.

    :hat
     
  12. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Spot on :good
     
  13. MetalMandible

    MetalMandible Chinchecker Full Member

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    It's sad that you had to post basically this same rant multiple times to drive home what was a rather simple point to begin with.:patsch
     
  14. werety

    werety Active Member Full Member

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    Yea its a fairly straightforward point that Popkins seems to just ignore even though Shogun said it himself.
     
  15. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    This is the way I see it.