Did stiverne throw the fight?

You know nothing. cynical p o s

 

the ONE time he was stopped he quit on his stool because he was completely out of shape, untrained for that fight and exhausted.

never close to being stunned in that previous fight.

wilder had him badly, badly hurt at least twice and stunned almost every round. wilder beat the sh!t out of him and I was SHOCKED he never went down and make it to the end.

very very tough mofo, give credit where credit is due and stop the nonsense, fix here fix there BS

 

Every boxer can be stopped by a nobody especially in the heavy weight divisions. One unexpected punch can end everything when you fight giants. Adonis Stevenson got his only defeat against a total nobody. And if you watch the fight Stiverne lost, If I'm not wrong, it was an unfair technical decision where Stiverne was perfectly fine to continue. He wasn't down, he was receiving a punch spree with his guards up.

And no, he did not throw the fight. The kind of punches he received would KO most heavy weights, even those with the best chins, he withstood nevertheless. It's just that monsters over 2m/6'6'' need a seperate division. When the likes of Wilder, Wlad, Fury, Wach, Helenius, Valuev etc fight people half foot shorter than them, it's like they fight someone who belongs to a different weight class, and the reach difference makes it almost impossible for the short boxer to pose any serious threat (unless of course he's a nature's freak like Mike Tyson)

 

He showed poor stamina, did not cut off the ring, and did not seem to want it. The judges cards were a joke. Wilder won, but not by the margin they said.

This to me suggests the rounds Stiverne likely won were given to Wilder early...just in case.

Impossible to say if it was fixed, but there were signs of a dis-interested fighter and bad judging.

 

so the "dis-interested" fighter won more rounds than he was supposed to in your opinion?

What on earth could that mean? Either he was disinterested [sic] or he wasn't.

 

Good take.

He showed some amazing poise not to be lured into when he had Stiverne on the backfoot.

The way he took a step back instead of forward in the 5th I think.....man.....that took a LOT of maturity, especially since the 4th was the rd Stiverne had his success in and looked to be a turning point.

But Wilder kept his wits.....stayed back, and fought a perfect fight from the back foot.:think

 

No he fought just like he always does. Comes forward behind a guard low work rate looking to counter and loading up. He also faced an extreme reach disadvantage with someone with a good jab good hand speed and pop.

 

THen all Wlads opponents should be accused of the same. Wilder gave Stiverne same kind of beatdown Wlad usually gives his opponents, but when its him its worldclass boxing...:-(

 

Every single time theres a big fight, I see one of these threads the next day...

 

If there was a FIX in.....it was by both camps.

The odds on the under were too delicious to pass on, and with Stiverne the UD and paying almost 2-1........


If there is an immediate rematch.....they we can start to make claim the fight MAY have been fixed.

I would not put it past the parties involved to have dumped a ton of money on the over and Wilder through the back door since all the late money came in on Stiverne and the steady flow of under $$$$ kept those over odds moving North.

Anyone who picked 10 over or decision made a ton of $$$$$.:think:think:think

 

I don't see any reason to believe he did. Stiverne just might not be that great and Wilder might be better than some thought he was. Also look at it stylistically, Wilder had a height, reach and speed advantage. Stiverne is shorter, slower, a plodder and doesn't look particularly fit. What happened in the fight makes some sense.

 

No. Stiverne looked like he was waiting on Wilder to tire out and it never happened. Wilder kept a good Jab in his face and tired Stiverne out kinda like Wlad does his opponents. Good strategy by Team Wilder.

 

Wilder beats everyone apart from Wlad and Povetkin

 

Nah, Wilder just boxed better than expected and Stiverne had no real gameplan to counter it. Physically, he was just too sluggish as well. He was a 240 pounder moving like he weighed 265. Judging by the fight and the scores, any screwing of Stiverne would've been on the cards, not something he was in on.

Gotta give due credit to Deontay for his development.