did team luis ortiz do the right thing ?

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  1. daverobin

    daverobin Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    did team luis ortiz do the right thing buy paying out 1 million dollars of his contract from golden boy promotions ???? his fight with ustinov is still on in oct ...but ortiz is a free agent ...smart or not ? personally i think not smart and smart ...not to many people know about luis ortiz and he would have been on the canelo undercard getting great exposure / now instead he has to fight in st petersburg in russia against ustinov and nobody in the usa will even know about him / at this point if i was ortiz i would go to al hayman ,,,al hayman gets his fighters title shots

    your thoughts bros
     
  2. Lady Girl

    Lady Girl Kneel Before Zod! Full Member

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    i think wilder was with golden boy and left as well.

    i think hes with dibella now
     
  3. RacingBeat

    RacingBeat Casual lives matter Full Member

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    My guess is he won't put anything better together and fade into obscurity

    Disclaimer, not an Oscar fan
     
  4. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    He has his options and that's good. Now he has to make the right moves to keep his career on track.

    Haymon advising is a great choice for him. That way he never needs a promoter. Leaving GBP is not the end.
     
  5. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Dude is already old az fugg... he messed up
     
  6. Beyonce Wilder

    Beyonce Wilder Active Member Full Member

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    was gonna say, ortiz is aging. not sure what kind of deal he plans to get.
     
  7. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's a high risk move IMO, because if he has a single loss now he's done. If he was with a bigger promotional house he could get 2-3 fights on undercards in case of loss.
     
  8. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hard to say. Maybe being aligned with Golden Boy was seeing him frozen out, might be easier for him to get a title shot if he can give options to the champions promoter.
     
  9. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    I have a feeling that Team Ortiz is so pumped full of hot air after the Jennings win that they think they are guaranteed to get some massive paydays with a title shot and don't want to share the income with Golden Boy. They're not thinking of the eventuality of injury or an outright loss or political issues with sanctioning organizations.
     
  10. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I wonder if al let's him near wilder?
     
  11. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    From the information I have, I'd say it is a foolish move. A superstar or someone on the cusp of becoming a star, maybe this would be a smart move. As it stands, he's a Cuban fighter that has been sanctioned for PED use in the past, that doesn't speak English, is at least age wise, past his prime, and has no name whatsoever.

    The math adds up to no. Unless he gets with Haymon or jumps to Arum or someone else. Free agency isn't gonna work for him.
     
  12. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well hes Cuban and a pro boxer.

    I think every single pro Cuban in recent years has had huge promotional/managerial issues.

    Barely any of them ever end up being active, and it leads to massives wastes of talent
     
  13. kostya by ko

    kostya by ko Boxing Addict

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    If he beats Ustinov ... he waits for Fury who either eventually fights him or gets stripped. If he does manage to take the WBA belt his defenses (beyond Oquendo) would likely generate very good money.

    Probably as simple as that. Just has to win the next fight and wait for Fury. If he's confident he has that scenario in hand, maybe it's the right decision.
     
  14. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    What confuses me is everyone tells me Cubans are smart, hard-working, ambitious people. Yet when I see the Cuban boxers I see lazy, unambitious and generally below-average development by these guys. Gamboa, Solis, Ortiz. What's wrong with these guys?
     
  15. rusev

    rusev Active Member Full Member

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    Cause they are coming from comunism, no biznes there , rumba on the streets all day, they live simple life, no ambitions to make money.