Did the 12 round limit ruin the heavyweights?

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  1. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    Thank you for separating your 4 OPINIONS SO CLEARLY.

    Here is a fact: There is no empirically tested evidence to prove that 12 rounds is safer than 15 rounds.
     
  2. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    15 rounds are more dangerous. Usually boxers go full pack early, and if they
    fail to finish his oponents then they save power in the middle rounds and get
    to the point after 12. However after 12 one of them is almost done and if he
    get KOed at that point then it may brings more damage than if he get Koed
    early by flash knockdown.

    Also if you think about the case of Mesi, he could still win with Jirov but
    if the fight was over 12 rounds he might be dead next day. He was lucky
    fight was only 10 rounds.
     
  3. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    Thanks for more opinions.
     
  4. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    If he was lucky it was 10 and suffered a subdural hematoma, then 12 could have killed him as well. That pretty much substantiates what i said earlier that bad things can happen long before 12 or 15. It's the reality of the nature of the sport.

    There isnt any data to prove that 12 is less dangerous, and it was more about finances than fighter safety, but by using that mantra ,it got the change to happen:good
     
  5. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    One thing is that with the current point system it would be better to have
    odd number of rounds. I think 13 would be better, then it would exclude some draw possibilities.
     
  6. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    I said the same thing on page 1 and I bet the majority of people would agree.

    The fact that they went to 12, instead of 13, gives credibility to the opinion that it was ALL about TV $$$$ and not fighter safety.
     
  7. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe going to twelve rounds could have had the opposite effect. By having fighters with eroding skills hanging around longer than they should. Thus making them more likely to have brain damage. Or fighters out of shape try to steal a few rounds & hang all over the opponent until the 12th round bell. James Toney would never have tried the Heavyweight division if he had to go fifteen rounds.
     
  8. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    15 rounds forces a fighter to be in top shape, today heavys are lucky to fight 12, with 3 more rounds to go , you would see better conditioned athletes and better fights,I used to love watching champion fights go 15, the last 5 are championship rounds and the last 3 are where it all hangs out
     
  9. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    After the 12 round of boxing, thats when the increase for brain damage hugely increases. Thats why they were lowered to 12 rounds.


    Badgers a ****ing ****** for wanting more people toget hurt.
     
  10. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Fix weigh ins and make fighters fight in their natural class instead of weight draining, and boxing would immediately become safer.

    People also don't point out that refs are far more likely to stop a fight now than they were in the 15 round days. Those 2 elements would make 15 round fights much safer if they took place nowadays. Hell, just save them for superfights if nothing else. Calzaghe-Kessler? Hatton-Mayweather? Hopkins-Wright? I'd like to see all those as "epic" 15 rounders.