Did the Ringside physician of the Katsidis-Amonsot fight deserve to be buttkicked?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Spitfire7, Jul 24, 2007.


  1. Spitfire7

    Spitfire7 Gadfly Full Member

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    The doctor is there primarily to protect, not "take away" (nor influence) a fighter's win, silly! Rocky's face could've been save from further mess if Dr Watson did stop the fight on, say, the middle rounds, and no one would be complaining. He would still win a TD.:twisted:
     
  2. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    No. That is not how boxing works. If the doctor stopped the fight because of all the cuts, Katsidis would have lost.

    The doctor also knows a bit more about the risks here then you do. Go get your medical degree then start to ask questions.
     
  3. Spitfire7

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    :patsch "Lost?" Go see the fight again and with the KD on the 2nd, and the fight stopped at 6th, who could doubt Katsi's win?

    As for the second paragraph: :nut:rofl Ever knew what doctors are for?

    It's idiots with mentality like that-- who believe on every book, every "authority" figures, and believe anything they're told hook-line-and-sinker, easily intimidated by titles-- that had made this world such a messy place. :-(
     
  4. Spitfire7

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    A dangerous precedent could be set here if physicians like Watson are allowed on this already messed up sport of ours...
     
  5. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    My god you are a moron.

    First, the rules state that Katsidis would have lost if the docotor stopped it.

    Secondly, go read up on some of Milgram's experiments. I know, better then you, what dumb obedience to authority looks like. Because, unlike you, I have both studied psychology and worked in the field - and I know what I am talking about.

    It's idiots with a mentality like yours - people who are stupid but refuse to acknowledge it - that is messing up the world. Admit your ignorance and quit trying to impose it on others. Armchair experts, who think they are automatic authorities on everything without putting the effort of years of study, research and effort into it, well they are pretty annoying. But they get dangerous when they try to act on their ignorance.
     
  6. Spitfire7

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    Should i be supposed to be intimidated too with your pseudo-scientific Freudian degree? Now i know why the empty psychobabble every time you open up your arse, er, mouth...:yep

    What "rules?" Katsi "would have lost" if the "docotor" stopped it? NSAC's? Nice try, "Freud.":rofl (Or is it "Fraud?":hey)

    :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  7. psychopath

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    The guy did his job proffesionally. I mean his decission was based on his medical know how . . . not based on who's gonna win or lose or who's winning or not . . . so I'd say that's beyond question.

    The more dangerous precedent will be . . .doctors stopping the fights at the very first sight of blood oozing from cuts.

    And if there's anybody who's gonna make an investigation on this it should be the medical institution not a BOXNG BODY.
     
  8. Spitfire7

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    I understand where you're coming from, Psychopath. Perhaps you could also see mine if you read the whole course of the thread...;)
     
  9. psychopath

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    I have no concern on the rest of your post so I'm quoting only the part that I'm clearing up.

    If a fight is stopped after the fourth round because of a cut, accidental or not then we go to the scorecards buddy. :yep

    If a fight is stopped because the other fighter is not fit to continue because of the punishment he had received then that's T.K.O. win for the other fighter.

    Ok clear? :hey :hi:
     
  10. psychopath

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    Yup I've read the whole thing dude. No problem with that, I can see your point.

    I'm just saying that the Doctor based on his medical know how feels that it's still okay for Kats to continue despite the bloody nasty cuts, it's his license which is at stake on this.
     
  11. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    the cuts were bad but amonsot did too little make the ref stop the fight IMO
     
  12. Spitfire7

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    :good :thumbsup<< @ psychopath
     
  13. rushman

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    Its spitfire who isn't clear. You could also add that if the fight was stopped because of the 3 cuts caused by the punches then it would be a TKO win. If it was stopped because of the one cut ruled to be caused by a headbutt then it would go to the cards.

    As that one accidental headbutt cut was not in a dangerous area, it would not have been the one that stopped the fight. Ergo - TKO win for Amonsot.
     
  14. rushman

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    No, the rules of the bout. The only realistic outcome from the fight being stopped is TKO loss to Katsidis.

    There is also nothing psuedo scientific about psychology when it is studied or applied correctly.

    What is pathetic is people like yourself, pathologically dishonest and stupid, trying to force their limited perspective onto others.

    I dont mind stupid people, but I hate it when they try to force their stupidity onto others. And you take the cake. I dont care how you bleat on from now on, you just joined intellectuals like one punch on my ignore list. You have nothing valid to say - and whatever you want to say wont sway my eternal gratitude that I am not a messed up person like you with a sub-room-temperature IQ.
     
  15. psychopath

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    Oh yes, now I can understand where you're coming from. The big cut that was profusely bleeding was from a legitimate punch and the smaller cut on the right side of the face was the one caused by the headbutt. If the fight was stopped because of the big cut caused by the legit punch then it's gonna be a T.K.O. for Amonsot.

    But DAMN, it could have caused a controversy and a riot right there. KATs corner could have cried robbery. :yep

    . . . so it's better that the fight was allowed to continue.