Did the second Foreman REALLY have a better chin than the first Foreman?

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Did the second Foreman REALLY have a better chin than the first Foreman?

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  1. Ney

    Ney Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Just caught up on the last few pages. Very interesting reading. I have been swayed to vote yes but great & convincing points have been made on both sides.

    Someone mentioned George Chuvalo chewing gum. I do know Jack Dempsey chewed rubber as a means of strengthening his whiskers. Whether it worked or not I couldn’t say, but he believed it.
     
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  2. Ney

    Ney Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What about Gerry Cooney, who proved in that very fight he could still crack with the left?
     
  3. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Morrison was a better puncher than Frazier, and Lyle? Really?
     
  4. BCS8

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    He hit harder and I'd put money on that.
     
  5. Ney

    Ney Well-Known Member Full Member

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    For the record, I vote old Foreman gets completely poleaxed by his younger self. He’s double tough, & that would only make it double ugly. As for the notion floated that old Foreman beats all his opposition from 69-77…madness IMO. He’s not beating Ali or Young, not a prayer. I give him slim odds against Frazier. Lyle & Norton would be intriguing.
     
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  6. BCS8

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    I agree here. Old Foreman would have certainly have struggled with speedy elusive fighters, although his jab might make it interesting.
     
  7. BCS8

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    Look at the shellacking Old Foreman took against Holyfield and he barely looked bothered

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  8. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Open questions to anyone who believes fighters can't improve their punch resistance, asked only because i'm genuinely interested in understanding your logic:

    1. Do you agree HWs typically have better punch resistance than MWs?

    2. If yes, why?

    3. If because their additional bulk, thicker core muscles, particularly in their neck, reduces the "snap" to their head upon impact of being punched, thereby reducing the trauma on the brain - then why does that apply when comparing random HW A) to random MW B), but not, for example, HW James Toney to MW James Toney, who had far more bulk, thicker core, including a much thicker neck, at HW than he did at MW?
     
  9. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You obviously don't know the difference between "harder" and "better". If he was a better puncher, he wouldn't have been blasted out in a single round by Michael Bentt of all people.
     
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  10. BCS8

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    People seem to forget that Morrison had the touch of sleep in his punches. If there was one thing Tommy could do, its destroy what he touched

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    Morrison lands a bunch of clean shots on Foreman who is going nowhere

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  11. BCS8

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    Heretical post around here. Let's get the torches and pitchforks boys!
     
  12. Ney

    Ney Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That’s the same Bentt who quit on his stool against Will Smith, of all people.
     
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  13. swagdelfadeel

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    The Fresh Prince?
     
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  14. Totentanz.

    Totentanz. Gator Wrestler Extraordinaire Full Member

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    One puncher, lol.
    Cooper, Cooney, Holyfield, Stewart, Morrison, Moorer, and Briggs are one.
    Let's not forget that as bad as Briggs was skill wise that Lewis named him as the hardest puncher he fought.
     
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  15. Totentanz.

    Totentanz. Gator Wrestler Extraordinaire Full Member

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    I thought it was pinecones that Dempsey chewed on.
    But nonetheless, I am a believer in this theory. Strong chins, durable or not, are formed while young by having your mouth closed (So that it can develop) and by properly chewing your food, it's why we see certain people with non-existent chins, because they took up the bad habit of breathing with their mouth when they were young. It's safe to say that these processes carry on into adulthood, and we can strengthen our jaw by doing the very same things as we did when we were young.
     
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