Did the Taylor fight cement Chavez's legacy

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  1. boranbkk

    boranbkk "ไม่ได้โม้นะ" Full Member

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    Post from two days ago in the “What made Chávez great” thread where we got into it about MT vs JCC 1.

    I think the fight, the build up and the 12th round should be posted to remind people not only what happened but the context of the time. Listen to the HBO crew in the build up and through the fight. The revisionist idea that MT was desyroyed and out worked and out fought is utter bull. It was a fight MT was ahead on, but JCC was closing in as time went on and MT was getting weaker due to the beating. Made it pure nail edge of the seat stuff. BUT MT was holding on and looking pure class in the fight of his life until the sticky Don King stoppage!

    Watch the fight again and honestly tell me who you had ahead on the cards....hand on heart without the luxury of hindsight.

    MT was even a force in the 12th were he had already built up a substantial points lead.

    Posted the full fight & the final round.

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  2. boranbkk

    boranbkk "ไม่ได้โม้นะ" Full Member

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    Taylor was still show boating in the 12th @53 seconds of the last round, go look! This idea he was battered to a pulp and close to death is ridiculous. MT was tired, battered and bruised for sure, but absolutely on the ball in the fight of his life.

    Less than a second after the fight was waved off by Sticky Steele...

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    Larry Merchant.

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    Jim Lampley.

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    Larry Merchant.

    Something didn't smell right that night.....Something smelt like a DK cluster****. :manifa::sherlock:
     
  3. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But it ruined him also. Yes he was exciting to watch, but even in his fights prior to Chavez I always thought he got hit cleanly for too much for a man with his natural ability and boxing skills. Esp considering he wasn't a viscous puncher.
     
  4. JohnThomas1

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    Definitely didn't help him for sure. He was an aggressive volume puncher who took some to deliver more with that insane handspeed.
     
  5. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    That is one hundred percent, unequivocally, objectively, demonstrably false:

    [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tueller_Drill[/url]

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    Not only is it well over the border of possibility that Chavez could have closed the distance and landed at least one more hard shot on Taylor, (who was very obviously defenseless) it's pretty comfortably in the territory of probability.
     
  6. highlander

    highlander Active Member Full Member

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    up at the count of three and walked back to his corner on his own. not defenseless. and your video shows men who are fresh, not exhausted after beating each other for 12 rounds. that would slow up crossing a ring diagonally. still stand by what i say. 2 seconds would not be enough time to land.
     
  7. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    The fact that he was up quickly -though obviously barely able to support himself and holding the ropes for dear life - does not by any stretch mean he was coherent and fit to continue. He was unresponsive to the referee and stared off blankly into space when questioned. You won't find a single competent neurologist in the world -this not an exaggeration- who will honestly deny that Taylor showed quite unambiguous signs of head trauma and serious impairment.

    Once again, your only logically coherent (if not cogent) option is to argue that technicalities must be rigidly observed when they suit you, and must be discarded as pedantic hair-splitting when they don't. Without this patently ad hoc special pleading, there is simply no case to be made.
    Sorry, but there it is.