Did Tiger Ted Have The Handcuffs On Against Rocky?

I don't think anything, I threw the article out there for discussion and hopefully some insight which Clay generously provided .
I expected the usual gloss over by you , and I got it.
Simmons fought Williams and Marciano at similar stages of THEIR careers but NOT HIS CAREER.
Goldman never mentioned the word talent in that article ,and he was referring to Marciano's power, not his skill.

If Marciano had lost two fights I think it would have a huge difference to how he is perceived today .
For one thing I dont think fan boys like Marciano Fan would be making the asinine comments they do today.
The only other thing that would have the same impact on his status, legend, and reputation would be if he had been born black.

 

Whoever you spoke to must have arrived late and missed the first four rounds!
Lowry doesn't seem to have been defensively survivalist minded in those four stanzas!
"It was Lowry, not Marciano, who was on the verge of scoring an early knockout, stinging Marciano with two terrific rights in the first round and then rocking him with two mighty uppercuts in the second. By the fourth, a staggered Marciano seemed just one punch away from being knocked out. But then, inexplicably, Lowry stopped fighting and retreated into a shell despite warnings from the referee to open up and a cascade of boos from the crowd. To many, it appeared that Lowry was deliberately carrying Marciano. Was foul play afoot? Was Lowry getting paid to lose? Or was he merely tiring? Whatever the reason, a revived Marciano managed to rally in the late rounds even though many of his punches missed their mark or lacked force. On the basis of his aggressiveness and constant punching, Marciano won a unanimous decision from the judges. Most observers felt, however, that Lowry should have won"

Wednesday, June 6, 2007

The book on Tiger Ted Lowry

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Everybody knows that Rocky Marciano retired as heavyweight champion, undefeated at 49-0. He never lost. Unless you believe reports from a fight he had on October 10, 1949 against "Tiger" Ted Lowry. Marciano was 20-0 with 19 KOs when they met that night in Providence. Lowry, a former middleweight from New Haven, had a long record whose exact numbers are unclear.

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says he was 59-48-9 when the two New England sons met as heavyweights. Lowry's own account, in his new book,

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, says he had 65 wins in 92 fights.

"In the fourth, Lowry had Marciano in such a bad way that it appeared it would be only a matter of time before he would complete the kill," according to Providence Journal boxing writer Michael J. Thomas, who was there. But in the second half of the 10-rounder Marciano came back and won a decision, 6-4, from all three judges. Lowry never outright says he dumped the fight intentionally -- he says he thinks he won. But he allows the introduction by Sharon Napolitano to cite speculation that Lowry was told he'd be guaranteed a second fight with rising contender Marciano if he didn't win the first time. "Lowry couldn't have won that fight, no matter what happened," one boxing official is quoted, anonymously, as saying. The boxers did fight and go the distance again, in 1950, and Lowry boasts of being the only man to go the distance twice with The Rock

 

I've asked a question none of you Marciano butt-kissers can answer and you're sorry for me? Did Lowry try to win? You dont know and haven't addressed the question ,you've just come out with a load of apologetic nothing.
You fan boys are paranoid do you know that?

Wow! Marciano thought he won! That's it then!
Lowry,it is LOWRY not LOWERY, wasn't the only one who thought he won so did the majority of the press and crowd.

 

If Liston was going into the tank ,I imagine he would have gone a few rounds and made it look good.

If the Dokes /Weaver first fight was bent, I imagine they would have extended it a while to give the fans their money's worth.
If Walcott was going to dump the second Marciano fight, I imagine he would have waited a few rounds.

"Imagination is funny,it makes a Bee think of honey".

Burke & Van Heusen 1940.

"Imagine all the people , living life in peace,you may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one"
John Lennon 1971.

 

The Johnson /Ketchel fight was a collusion between both parties.

No one has suggested that Marciano colluded with Lowry.

While I believe it entirely possible that Weill would be capable of dissapearing up his own rectum for $5, I dismiss out of hand that Marciano would be party to a fix, his exhibition with brother Sonny doesn't come under that category.



Which was it then ? Handcuff/fixed / straight ?
A question requires an answer.