Did Tiger Ted Have The Handcuffs On Against Rocky?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Like Lastarza, he officially lost to Marciano in his first fight.
    I don't think there is any doubt Marciano was the best heavyweight Lowry fought.
     
  2. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A cuff job seems unlikely. Favoritism to the house fighter maybe.
     
  3. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    In an article by Robert Mladinich that appeared in Ring Magazine in 1998 about men who were still alive who fought Marciano.:

    "Ted Lowry the consummate journeyman fought a veritable who's who of contenders and almost always went the distance with them. Many believed Lowry who fought Rocky twice deserved the nod in their first encounter. The second one was not all that close. "Marciano was good and well conditioned, but not all that smart in the ring" said Lowry, who is 79 and lives in Newarlk, Connecticut. "I always thought I had the right style to beat him if I prepared more but I really can't take anything away from him, because he did retire undefeated. But I couldn't see him beating guys like Archie Moore, Joe Louis, and Jersey Joe Walcott if they were not on the way out. But he definitely would beat a guy like Mike Tyson. He just never quit." Lowry had the reputation for being nearly impossible to hit solidly, a factor that caused the future champion great frustration. Marciano was quoted as saying he could fight Lowry 100 times and not stop him. Lowry' s career lasted from 1940 to 55' and saw him retire with a record of 55-66-9(37). He was stopped only three times, even though more often than not took fights on short notice fir short money in far away places. "As long as people remember Rocky Marciano they will always remember Tiger Ted Lowry" he Saud. "That's a feather in my cap because it makes me part of history"
     
  4. Bummy Davis

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    the fight was on the level= straight, Lowry felt he won the 1st 4 rounds and Marciano came on in the next 6 of which Ted feels he won 2....sounds like a very close fight even from Teds eyes.....nice effort but the Judges ruled for the other guy
     
  5. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Being warned for inactivity repeatedly understandably make many feel it was fixed. From what i can gather Lowry SHOULD have gotten the decision, & he got the usuall robery of Journeymen in close fights.

    Though if Lowry was so good & on the level, why was he losing all those fights around that time? So many without a win. That leads oine to wonder if he let up to get fights.
     
  6. embryo

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    Marciano is overrated, the mob was responsible for a few wins that could very well have been losses. He wasn't even a skilled boxer, he was a tough, bug guy who could take a punch and could throw a barrage of devastatingly powerful shots to the arms and body. he would have been picked apart by anyone who was a master boxer, like Ali, prime Tyson, Klitschko's with their long reach and punishing jabs. I love Rocky, I'm Italian, proud to be a fan of his, but overrated. Tough, tough fighter, good fighter, but 49-0 doesn't mean a whole lot to me. He got the hell out of boxing once he felt like he would have trouble keeping the title, which bothers me. Tyson and the old time fighters all had the attitude "You're going to have to KILL me to get my title."
     
  7. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Well Embryo I see you are in the Embryonic stages here, welcome.

    I feel you are little off in some of your assessments.
    Lowery 1 may well have been deserved as a loss. ILaStarza 1 was close, but likely Rocky deserved it. And I think he clearly deserved all his other wins. Most all ATGs-Louis, Ali, Holmes-more so likely-had at least as many close & debatable fights.

    He was not big even for the era, he was smallish even then with a tiny reach. He also had a difficult to time & predict crouching swarming style, & a # of subtle boxing skills. Though was not very accurate or fast.

    It seems unfair to blame him for leaving when he did, on several levels.
    There was nobody on the immediate horizin likely to challenge him, he did NOT get out to avoid anyone. He had a few good fights left, he wanted to go out on top unlike Louis, though he could have reined longer, as recently discussed at length in another thread, it likely would take 2 or more years for anyone to be ready for him, Liston was not, patterson was green & D'Amato might have ddodged Rocky.

    Also he had a bad back & his Manager was robbing him blind.
    No blame accrues to him for leaving then.
     
  8. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol::lol: mcvey
    may fall out with everybody routinely but I'd bet my mortgage he hasn't got an alt.
     
  9. mcvey

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    The alternative explanation to the underlined is possibly Sam Silverman's,
    Silverman promoted most of Rocky's early fights.
    Silverman said that Rocky could struggle just as much with a journeyman as with a top fighter.
     
  10. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Your breath smells of ****.


    Rocky must have the cleanest arse on the Forum.:yep


    :smh:smh
     
  11. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    x2
     
  12. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    :patsch:lol:
     
  13. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Agreed.
     
  14. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Your explanation seems to be the logical one.:good
     
  15. Unforgiven

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    I haven't read the thread but from what I've read elsewhere, YES, Tiger Ted Lowry seemed to back off when he had Marciano hurt.
    But only the first time they fought. The second fight was on the level.

    Now, I'll read the thread and see what all you lot are saying. I might change my mind.:D