Did Tubbs display faster handspeed v Tyson than Ali did v Frazier in the FOTC?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I looked back at this fight and I feel Tubbs was quicker than Ali was in the first fight with Frazier, was Tubbs quicker compared to Ali in that condition?
     
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  2. KeedCubano

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    You ask some strange questions
     
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  3. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No.

    Tubbs had good handspeed but not as fast as Ali in '71.
     
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  4. Fergy

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    He had good hand speed against Tyson, true, but it made no difference in the long run. Probably would've made no difference if Tubbs had been in excellent shape, Tyson would still have got him, maybe a couple of rounds later tho.
    And Tubbs against Frazier with faster hands?.
    Tony still would've been destroyed by Joe and he would nt make it to 15 either!
     
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  5. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I feel Tubbs was quicker, Ali looked sluggish compared to how he loked in the rematch with Joe.
     
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  6. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Yes Joe would have destroyed Tubbs but I feel Ali from the FOTC century would have been outsped by Tyson`s handspeed judging by how Mike dealt with Tubbs hand speed.
     
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  7. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I feel Ali was quicker in the rematch.
     
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  8. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tubbs was nothing better or faster than Ali.
     
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  9. expljose

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    Maybe but ali didnt fight a hand speed style of fighting he wanted to go toe to toe with joe and absorb blows he was out to prove his machismo
     
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  10. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    Tubbs handspeed only seemed faster cause he was so fat. I’m not even joking around here. Seeing speed where your mind doesn’t expect too (huge fat guys are usually slow) messes with you.
     
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  11. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tubbs had the fastest hands I've ever seen for a heavyweight, or so it appeared. There's no real way of measuring, is there..
     
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  12. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All subjective, just like these 'ATG' and 'P4P' terms. But then I guess that's what discussion boards are for.
     
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  13. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You are wrong, he was faster at falling apart, and better at losing than Ali!
     
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  14. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    He was nowhere near Ali`s level I just felt Ali`s hand speed looked a little sluggish in his first bout wit Frazier.
     
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  15. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    That`s because Ali had faster reflexes, I was talking specifically about hand speed.
     
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