Did Tyson come back markedly a different fighter after prison?

Ruddock wasn't standing there like a zombie, Bruno(in the first fight), Green, Berbick, Thomas, Smith, Tucker, Holmes, Biggs and others. You just need to watch other fights.

 

He needs to actually watch fights period and not get his boxing history schooling from Friday Night Fights and Teddy Atlas

 

Ive seen every fight of Tyson pretty much and I agree with the gentleman that said his quality of opponents changed. I think Tyson during the 80's ruled a pretty shitty division. Tyson was no bum by any means I just think he was a little more exposed after jail because thats when the HW division then was completely different then that of the mid 80's.

 

You said "if his opponent doesn't stand there like a zombie in fear of a myth they are giving Tyson trouble."

That's retarted, sorry.

 

Im not sayin Tyson was a bum but check out the opponents you bring up Bruno, Green, Berbick, Thomas, Smith, Tucker, Holmes, Biggs besides Ruddock and maybe Tucker I just think the opposition is in question.

 

Whos Ruddick ? LOL

 

Ruddock gave Tyson a tough fight cause he wasn't a ***** and had pre mature stoppage the first fight and went 12 rounds the second. Same with Holyfield and Lewis. AHHh everybody thought Holyfield was shot and he waxed that ass. Yeah ok by McBride and Williams he wasn't the same. But this prime this prime that **** is ******ed.

 

Hindsight is always 20/20 is'nt it???

You all saw Tyson's few fights after prison and before Holyfield, yet.....

You are like many others here claiming that Tyson was done after prison.......are also the exact same people that picked Mike Tyson to win via murder against Evander Holyfield, and already having seen him in a few fights after prison.....one in particular in which he crushed Frank Bruno, which caused the Showtime commentators giddy with emotion to proclaim, "Tyson's back! Mike Tyson is back!"

.....and still not satisfied with the shellaking of a schooling Holyfield forced upon him.....the same people, and I'm sure you're included Scar, go ahead and pick Tyson to win the Holyfield rematch.
....thinking the first fight was an abberation and laughably claiming Tyson lost because of the result of Holyfield fouling!:rofl :rofl

Before the Holyfield fights, all the Tyson groupies held their heads high when Tyson would boastfullly state himself in sarcastic terms that something like, "oops I missed him with that shot, and accidentally hit him with my elbow!".....saying it in a way as if to boast that he had done so.


.....and if that is'nt enough, some of these same 20/20 hindsight posters around here who claim Tyson was shot after prison, shot after Holyfield.......yet still think so much of him that they come out in droves still picking him to beat Lennox Lewis!:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

Their are still bafoons today that think Tyson could make some noise if he'd hook up with Kevin Rooney!atsch


Hindsight is always 20/20 is'nt it!!!!:yep

 

Umm, actually there aren't.

 

Were you the last of those Mohicans?

 

Mike Tyson didn't encounter ANYTHING CLOSE to Williams or MCBride before jail.

The tallest non-bum opponents he encountered BEFORE jail was Tony Tucker and Mitch Green (both 6'5'') AND BOTH he couldn't KO.

The heaviest non-bum opponents he encountered before jail were Donovan Ruddock (whom he couldn't KO) and Buster Douglas (who KOed Tyson) and Tony Tubbs. And those guys were 30-40(!!) lbs LIGHTER than Williams and McBride. And SMALLER (6'3'' and 6'3.5'') than McBride (6'6'').

Now if you claim that pre-prison Mike would have had much chances against heavy (and tall) opponents like Wiliiams and McBride then it is pure speculation not supported by Tyson's record.

Mike was a specialist in KOing SMALLER (up to 6'3'') and/or LIGHTER and/or BUMMY opponents. And before-jail he never ran into someone as tall and /or big and/or great as Williams, McBride, Holyfield or Lennox. That's why he lost. Not because of jail.

The ONLY exception in Tyson's entire career was Lou Savarese (6'5'', that's the only noteworthy opponent > 6'3'' Tyson could KO).

 

You sir, with all your calculations dont have even basic boxing knowledge:-(

The fact that you don’t understand how stupid you claims are makes it even worse.
Try watching actual fights instead of calculating records

 

Are you implying as others have that he may have been taken advantage of " in there " ?

 

Actually I remember all this quite well and while there was still a TON of hype around Tyson post prison, most boxing experts reported that his skills were extremely rusty. Most everyone who didn't just jump on the boxing wagon after tyson made it a page one sport again and who knew how he fought in the 80s saw that his skills were far from where they used to be.

Yeah, some of us thought he still had enough left in him to beat holyfield, but we were wrong. That says nothing about the topic here which is that Tyson was no where NEAR prime when he fought holyfield and if you think otherwise, you are either :nut or are just trying to pump up the victories of those who beat him post prime into more than what they were which was a decent "W" over a past prime Tyson.

As for Holyfield, its a FACT that he is known for intentional butting as a regular part of his game. If you don't think his headbutts were a factor in his fights you are crazy. Its also a FACT that he is probably the biggest hypocrite to ever step in the ring. Praise the lord while I fight as dirty as they come and then go make some more illigitimate kids. At least Mike never pretended to be some holier than thou role model. It's disgusting how many fell for that ****.