Tyson had a good enough threshold of pain. He ate plenty from Buster before he went down for example. Please dont use his last fights as a gauge, thats unfair and we could apply that to any number of fighters at the tail end of their career
Tyson's punch resistance and pain threshold was off the charts. Hes taken many bombs from heavy hitters like they were nothing.
His pain threshold was laugable, I can't recall any championship fighters screaming like a girl when getting a cut tended to...
That's taking it to the far extreme, really to the point of finding it too funny to argue with. One thing Tyson proved in his career is that he took plenty of pain in the ring and was hard as nails. In the Lewis fight the man was near getting killed but was still plodding forward until that monster hook, I remember one punch pretty much bent Tyson's neck in half but he still lashed out with a hook afterwards. You going to complain that he moaned a bit when his gashed eyes where pressed? Jesus. Tear into the man for not being able to turn a champion ship fight around by all means, but to basically call him a wuss is laughable, don't try to strip the guy of his manhood all well.
I would never call Tyson a wuss. However he did react very poorly when faced with a real challenge. He looked like a world beater when dominating but when faced with adversity either he would try to foul out or become docile and not appear to be able to summon that something extra to pull out a win or even make the fight competitive. In a boxing history filled with fighters termed ATG who showed an ability to fight on and win no matter what it's a huge hit in terms of Tysons rating all time.
Tyson got hit by a Monstor Punch from Bruno who was a pretty hard puncher, perhaps even Harder than lewis but he recoved. He summoned enough energy to whack Botha with that one big shot after being out boxed for the entire fight. His wars with Ruddock showed his ability to fight back as well. Too much is being made out of he never had the ability to fight back. The reality is you cannot turn back the clock in this sport as you get older.
My point was that calling Tyson a wuss is basically immature. Id agree that his significant losses he came up short mentally, but he was tough in those losses. The problem is his post prison career did a lot of damage in terms of him dealing with adversity, it built on the theory he was a bully that would fold if fought back. Its hard to argue because the legacy he left on his comeback is nothing short of dismal. I personally see him as a different fighter post prison but that doesnt mean I think he was infallible in his prime. Although I go along with the theory he was under prepared against Douglas you have to also take evidence from it in terms of how a prepared Tyson would have done. I think Mike would have had his hands full either way but he really gets penalised for this fight by the pure boxing fans. Great fighters can lose but because of that Douglas loss he is labelled as a bully and weak, due in some part because of how post prison mentally shot Tyson dealt with adversity.
I don't see how anyone can make it through a professional boxing career, the bulk of which spent fighting near the top of one's weight class while having a " weak pain threshold." Some of the shots that guys like Frank Bruno and Razor Ruddock were hitting Tyson with made me cringe.
I agree with that. People do buy into the theory that Tyson couldn't take one bad thing happening in a fight or he would mentally fold. Post prison he clearly reacted badly to not controlling a fight but his confidence was shot, as boring as it is to repeat, he wasn't the same fighter. But that's ok to say I think, I don't equate that to meaning he could beat Holyfield at any point necessarily, I just go with the fact he was completely mentally shot after being imprisoned, and this rightly or wrongly reflects on his legacy.
Maybe its a different subject, the point is he could take pain and fight on, without blinking in some cases. When getting beaten in a fight the best you can really say is he keeps trying to an extent. With Douglas he was still waiting for that opening an actually got it with the knock down. Its not as clean cut as him giving up.
He lost taking a sustained **** beating over 10 rounds from a very large heavyweight who could crack, and ultimately ended up getting stopped on his feet. All this while having an incompetent corner who was clueless about controlling the swelling over his eye.. How is this an indication of having a weak pain threshold?