Did Vitali retire to avoid Rahman

Many of you are missing the point.

Of course we all think Vitali would have beaten Rahman. That's not the question.

The facts are that he postponed the fight several times before "retiring". Maybe Vitali himself wasn't as sure as we are that he would have won.

This "comeback" just adds fuel to the argument that he DID retire to avoid Rahman. Otherwise, why didn't he just take an injury layoff then fight Rahman when he is ready?

 

Good luck Drex...I already tried to break it down to these foolish KLIT-ites, still they fail to see the issue.

They turn it into how good VITaLI is and how shitty Rahman is...a typical popularity contest. Conjecture as to the psyche of either Rahman or VitKLIT, is much more valid here than speculating what would have happened had they actually fought...especially with hindsight skewing the whole thing, Rahman had a different presence back then. :smoke

 

It's less valid if the only evidence backing up your speculation is more speculation. When I say Vitali wasn't scared, I do so from Rahman's unimpressive resume. When you argue he does, you don't have anything concrete. We needn't speculate who would have won Rahman-Vitali to deduce that Rahman's record was unimpressive.

The facts remain:

* Vitali's opponents before Rahman were essentially on the same level Rahman himself was. Rahman was coming off an unimpressive performance vs. Barrett and a string of journeymen. By comparison, Williams was coming off an impressive win against (shot) Tyson, Sanders was coming off an impressive win against Wlad. Even Kirk Johnson had a more intimidating recent record than Rahman.

* Vitali did have surgery before, during, and after the Rahman fiasco. He had a history of being injury prone. The plyometric training he was reportedly doing also tends to increase joint wear and tear.

* As others pointed out, he could have dropped the belt if he wanted to avoid Rahman. Taking a FIFTH layoff before fighting Rahman--as Drexl (jokingly, I hope?) recommends--was out of the question.

* He ran for Mayor of Kiev after retirement...Hardly what you would expect of a man planning to stage a comeback as soon as Rahman was out of the picture.








If you're going to argue that Rahman was terrifying Vitali, you're going to have to have more teeth in the argument. In other words, prove that his record up to that time justified the fear.

 

:good

 

The guy fought Lewis, Sanders, and Tyson conqueror Williams,Johnson, how in the world would he be afraid of anyone,especially Rahman(who struggled with Ruiz, and was KO'd by Maskaev and Tua and Evander

 

:rofl

 

And there is the problem!Anyone who doesnt agree is a KLIT-ite right?Im not the biggest Klitschko fan at all but i respect them both.You make it out to where if someone is a fan(a normal subjective one not a blind hugger)they are completly blinded.

THIS IS ****ING HASIM RAHMAN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE.I for one dont think Vitali fears any fighter let alone ****ing Rahman.You might just might have a case if it were a prime undefeated Tyson or a Tua we are talking about here but ****ing

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Suge is to the Klits what Presscott is to Hoya.Not matter what it's all a conspiracy theory.

I bet half the people that responded dont care for either Klit or Rahman but they responded simply because like me just the thought of Vitali ducking Rahman is absured.

 

You are a card carrying KLIT-ite...you think that it would take an Undisputed Champ like Tyson (which VITKLIT was not),or a fighter who has never been stopped like TUA (we all know VITKLIT is hardly unstoppable) in order to scare VItKLiT, after four cancellations with Rahman...???:nut

Quit trying to pretend you aren't on their nuts...I don't know who you are trying to fool.

I don't even hate these guys, i just am not overly impressed with them. So you think I hate them, what do you want me to do cry about it...??? :|

 

Yeah, Cross...that's great that you want to argue this but I don't remember making a case on Rahman's behalf, about the four occasions VITKLIT backed out of a fight with him...back when Rahman still had an aura of contention, and had a KO of LL in his recent past...no, sorry...

...what I was stating is that those of you arguing on VITKLIT's behalf are making points based on how much Rahman sucked, and how good Vitali is...which is not what this thread is about. It's about whether or not Vitali feared Rahman...it's about the possibility that Rahman may have been in Vitali's head at the time, may have had his number, or maybe didn't like how they matched up (in his opinion, not ours), or of course his KO of LL could have been a factor...or who knows, what other possible reasons there could have been.

What this is not about is "Rahman sucks, and VITKLIT would kill him."

 

Of all fighters? Rahman? :think

But I don't know . . . you have a valid arguement. :yep

 

No matter how you spin it, you can't change the fact that Rahman had one significant win since beating Lewis, and that was against fringe contender Monte Barrett. His "aura of contention" was as flimsy as his fragile whiskers. :yep

 

...and VITKLIT's wins were significant...???

What everyone forgets is the playing field was much more level at the time...VITKLIT and Rahman were both competitors on the same level as far as world class fighters go...you know, B level fighters...don't let the temporary gold fool you.

 

You dont hate them yet 90% of your posts are anti Klitshcko.:think

:thumbsup :hi:

 

Yeah Vitali fought the best fighter of our era (Lewis) but was scared of the one that got knocked out cold by Oleg Maskaev.