Did Vitali retire to avoid Rahman

Look, this thread is a wind up. I enjoy baiting the Klit fans too.

The problem with the argument FOR Vitlay is this. He postponed the fight with Rahman many (4) times. THEN - asked to fight somebody (I forget who), INSTEAD of Rahman. When that was declined, he retired.

So, he was not fit to fight Rahman, but fit to fight another voluntary??????

You're fit or you're not.


(BTW - I think Vitlay demolishes Rahman even if he sits on a stool....)

 

A fifth is out of the question but a fourth is fine?

The situation was already ridiculous, what difference would it have made?

 

The best response on here to nullify all these Klit haters is what Boxing guru said. Why would Vitali be afraid of Rahnam when he faced Lewis and wanted a rematch at that.

 

You think they would have granted a fifth postponement? Just how long do you want an injured Vitali to hold the belt hostage? atsch

Vitali is only now in fighting trim. Perhaps he should have waited another three years?

 

Not exactly sure what you're saying here. Rahman did not have any more of an aura than other fighters Vitali chose to fight.

...Which is exactly the point. If you want to believe Vitali feared Rahman, he must have had a reason. Since Rahman wasn't better than the fighters he DID face, what's the reason? (For bonus points--are there any sources that support the reason?)

Rahman sucking is a perfectly reasonable argument. If a fighter sucks, he's not very scary.

(For the record, Rahman doesn't suck. But he hardly had an aura of invincibility, and that was crystal clear even at the time this was going on).

 

Here's the problem: you want an argument about whether Vitali was scared of Rahman, but you don't want any facts involved. When real concrete evidence is mentioned (Rahman's ability, Vitali could have dropped the belt, Vitali had a history of injuries, Vitali ran for mayor of Kiev), you returning to the nebulous "we're talking about Vitali's state of mind...facts aren't relevant here".

It's just silly. Without factual information, you can dream up any fantasy you want about a fighter's "state of mind".

 

Vitali had disposed of several Rahman-level fighters leading up to the Rahman fight. Rahman had beaten a few journeymen and fought an ugly sparring match with Barrett. Not really comparable.

 

this is a fighter who fought Lewis and wanted Tyson, He is not affraid of ne one and especialy Rahman

 

Vitali would not be scared of Rahman as he is a much better fighter.

 

It wasn't a "sure win". But his record makes it clear that he was not an intimidating superman either. His recent accomplishments--journeyman wreckage + bad Barrett fight--were certainly no better than Sanders, who brutally destroyed the #1 contender. Nor were they better than Kirk Johnson, who had beaten everyone put in front of him (except Ruiz, where he was winning and DQ'd).

 

rahman is a journeyman and nothing more, your hate is blatant and you cant hide it wich cause your credibility to go down.

 

Look at Rahman's pre-Vitali performances, not his record as a whole. The Lewis fight had been over four years before. His record against top contenders after Lewis and before Vitali was rather pathetic--1-3-1, INCLUDING Barrett.

At least Sanders had a destruction of a top contender, Williams beat Tyson soundly, and Johnson had good performances. Rahman? A few journeymen a la Shannon Briggs and a weak victory over Barrett. Not bad, but not the stuff of fearsome legends.