Did Ward Ruin Kovalev's Career?

Kovalev did not lose that fight, SOB cheated, SOB was disqualified in the eyes of the fans who saw the fight, anyone who claims otherwise if a liar..................there rules in boxing, no matter what Roc Nation and SOB claim, no matter what the Nevada boxing commission claims, and Weeks is a damned criminal, should be investigated................the video does not lie, neither does the still pictures, low blows are against the rules, so SOB is disqualified.................

 

Well considering I tried to rescore the fight as if I was Andre's dad and still had him coming up short I don't think any score for him winning is reasonable.

I don't understand why people won't accept that he got a gift. Just because the judges didn't have to stretch it a million miles to give it to him doesn't make it less of a gift. If he gets given the benefit of the doubt on everything close then he loses narrow, if Kovalev get the same treatment he loses wide and if you split them then he loses handily if not wide. What they did was give him everything that could make it close and then stole a bit more from Kovalev.

That's how I see it. Do I think that would of happened if Kovalev was American? No I do not.

 

Yes, Kovalev's career is badly damaged, there's no doubt about that. Kovalev lost his "brutal" and "unbeatable" moniker, he looked very beatable and unhappy in the ring with Ward. His stamina didn't look to be enough to hang on the elite level.

 

In the rematch certainly and whilst he didn't crush Ward he certainly did enough to win in the vast majority of people's eyes. Unfortunately for him the deck was stacked against him.

 

Not only did he not crush Ward, he didn't look superior to him at all. Truth is Kovalev struggled with a career SMW. If Kovalev was an ATG LHW like most of us (including myself) thought then he should have easily dominated Ward. But he didn't so we need to change our previous assessment and admit our mistake.

 

No, he didn't ruin Kovalev's career. Ward won both fights by the helps from 3 judges and the referee Tony Weaks.

 

the tkoval8ter will return soon, trust me.

 

Myself and many people I know in person scored it 7-5 for Ward. I'll debate any round with you. Not thinking that Ward could reasonably win is a pretty out there position. The rounds were very competitive. So many people were influenced by the knockdown and thought that simply because Kovalev kept coming forward that he was banking rounds. Meanwhile in round 3 Ward clearly landed the sharper punches.

 

I don't think it is. Over 75% of the boxing community had Kovalev winning comfortably. It's you who are in the minority my friend.

Sure a few people have caved and bought into the pro-US fighter narrative that 'it could of gone either way' post fight but it's nonsense to me. Even the most ardent Ward fans admit Kovalev had a case as they know trying to dismiss him winning the fight was ridiculous. I expect that to change now Ward has 'win' number 2 but it says a lot that.

Now I don't care about Kovalev - I think he's a pretty dislikable guy and couldn't give a **** if he gets KTFO repeatedly from hereon out but hate saying what I believe to be the wrong decisions given and for me Ward vs Kovalev one was a horrible case of home cooking.

 

Most people think it was close, even if they had Kovalev winning. I also think that most people who vote in the polls don't have a scorecard, they just watched it and walked away with a vague impression. That happens all the time in boxing.

Show me your scorecard and we'll debate the differing rounds, because it's ludicrous to me to suggest there's no way Ward could have won. And it's more unrealistic to treat Ward like Trinidad or Canelo or Pacquiao, some kind of superstar with lots of pull and favoritism. When he fought Froch the British judge had the fight wider for Ward than the Americans did. Conspiring to have him win a fight by 1 point is difficult.

 

ward and fmj ruined a lot of boxer's trust of the sport. the blantant cheating they have got away with are becoming a norm that makes more fans don't believe in even playing field and fair decisions anymore unless the win is by KO.

 

I don't think Ward is some huge draw - I think he was - in this case anyway - the desperately protected last hope of a superpower trying to maintain its lustre in a globalised world. The US doesn't dominate boxing in the way it did and it needs Ward to be the p4p number 1/2 for prestige. In other eras I don't think that Ward would of been able to force opponents into so many concessions - there would of been other American fighters flying the flag and so nobody would give a **** about whether he fights or not.

I think they made the cards closer than they were for the Froch fight because it was embarrassing to have such a one sided tournament final. They knew Carl had no chance of winning on points so gave him a few sympathy rounds in the sessions in which he was marginally more competitive. That's the only way I can explain that although as I said earlier that was at a time when the USA still boasted one of its own as the face of boxing in Mayweather so perhaps that was a factor. Brits are also generally considerably more welcome in the US the Russians so maybe that's a factor too but I'm speculating here. At least Andre got the W which was the right decision so in the end no harm was done.

Card wise it seems a pointless debate to me if you really think it was 7-5 considering Kovalev scored a knockdown.