Did we jump the gun on Usyk or is he still best CW ever and a top HW?

A) I have explained why that is not so
B) I have explained that they have had more fights than that to judge them, since you apparently did not know it
C) You play the fool when you call people fanboy in lieu of making a good argument.

 

Holyfield will go down in history as the ATG cruiserweight and will go down with the better career as a HW as well. Sig it

 

Head to head @ cruiser

Holyfield
Usyk
Haye

Head to head @ heavy

Holyfield
Haye
Usyk

Resumes @ crusier

Usyk
Holy
Haye

Resumes @ heavy

Holy
Haye
Usyk

 

Usyk is at worst the 2nd best CW of all-time.

Will he become a top HW? Probably not, but time will tell.

 

Loma after 12 fights, people - "P4P #1 best omfg"

Usyk after 17 fights - "omfg the best ever"

-.-

 

I've said quite a few times I believe Usyk is the second greatest CW of all time but would not beat Holyfield at CW or HW. I've yet to see anything from Usyk that makes me change my mind on this order. I don't think anyone jumped the gun with Usyk though, he's truly elite. He's gonna have some problems with the upper echelon of the HWs. He "could" beat them, those wil be precarious fights for him though. This was my line of thinking pre-Chisora

 

This CW maybe overblown but it is evidently far better than Hayes CW era. Haye fought absolutely meh fighters to unify the titles and his resume at HW is just a joke. It's a shame his prime ended prematurely as his style was very enjoyable to watch. I think his excuse against Wladimir is very legitimate as well.

Usyk is fighting guys in their prime his own size.. Unlike people like Canelo and AJ (4 top opponents who are 38/39+).

Also, context. Usyk was a year out of the ring before he fought an arguably better Chisora (debatable) and had only fought 6 rounds in 2 years. Ring rust is a thing.

 

How did he deal with Chisora?????? Haye has a lot more power than Usyk and he was getting hit a lot by Chisora before he got the KO

 

Prime Haye would have smoked Usyk.

Stiff Ukrainanian bum would have got battered.

 

Hayes more skilled than Usyk? Lol mate you have literally no idea what you are talking about.. Haye beats Usyk in explosiveness and that's it (maybe head movement too, but Usyk has far complex and multitude of ways to avoid punches) I feel like some of you just comment on here and don't have an actual clue about what you're watching.

It's actually debateable whether Chisora is better now than he was back then. Chisora is undoubtedly slower now but he is refined in other aspects, so you're being a bit disingenuous here.

What is objective is that Usyk is almost 34, had his first test at HW after a year out and had only had 6 rounds in the past 2 years. Ring rust at his age would undoubtedly affect his performance.

If you truly believe Haye does a demolition job on Usyk then I'm sorry you're just a casual.

 

The irony is, your comment is void of context and the embodiment of fanboyism itself.. Read my last comment

 

Usyk is a slow starter, not just in the ring but out of it. Give him time to get settled into the division. He'll be spanking bottom left, right and centre.

 

Mr. Holyfield is the best CW of all TIME

 

Anyone who considers Haye a more skilled operator than Usyk is probably better off writing ill informed youtube comments somewhere than debating on an actual boxing forum.

 

He was never the best Cruiser ever.