Did we jump the gun on Usyk or is he still best CW ever and a top HW?

Not the best Cruiser ever and unless he gets much better and more powerful
he'll never be a top heavy. Pretty boxer in his weight range. He should drop to
the new WBC division and make something of that.

 

Ironic username.

 

Opinions like assholes.

 

Lol Haye is so overrated. People talking about how he handled Chisora better, Usyk wouldn't get ko'd by Thompson or Bellew (twice). Usyk was also not bulked up for the Chisora fight

 

I think it's between Usyk and Holyfield for the #1 cruiser and personally I think Usyk is ahead on cruiser resume.

 

And yeah, he's obviously a top heavy now, proved in fire.

 

Haye is so overated I was at the Chisora fight and rewatching on replay Haye is pretty close t having a heart attack he is blowing very hard and if he doesn't knock Chisora out that round he is there for the taking. Haye HAD to knock Chisora out as his gat tank was always pretty poor. Chisora has had an Indian summer with his carrer where he has been a bit more conistant in recent years where as earlier on he would very much blow hot and cold.

Usyk would comforatbly beat Haye who would talk a good fight but rarely deliver one.

 

...jump the gun? Bro, if this was checkers the gun would have jumped you so many times it would have kinged all its pieces and taken all of yours off the board without a casualty. Shutout, clean sweep.

 

He could be number 2 or 3 best ever at Cruiserweight.

 

Where would he rank? Top 20 or 15?

 

As i said outside of your Fury bias, you are a very decent poster.
I totally agree that Usyk is far from his prime, and he declined.
His last true prime was back in WBSS against Gassiev.

He suffer some bad injuries, and struggle with weight, as he switch very late to the HW, obviously his reflexes, reaction time, speed, footwork and cardio are declined.

He is also giving size, reach and height compare to the current HW, which are massive advantage over him.


He had a hard COVID and a hand injury, which he undergo surgery. Still all that being said i believe that we are yet to see the best from him in the HW.

 

All time? That's a short resume to base any high standing on even though I feel AJ is a very good win.

Currently? Top 3.

 

To be fair to Haye he was a shell in the Bellew fights he beats Bellew handily in his prime a prime Usyk vs prime Haye would have been a great fight

 

This. Haye in his prime had very good mobility in comparison to when he made his comeback, since almost 4 years out the ring and injuries made Haye very stiff and slow.