Did we overrated Gvozdyk

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  1. pepsiclassic

    pepsiclassic Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He did so much wrong, he didn't have very good distance, his balance was off, and he stood perfectly square a lot..
     
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  2. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Every shot he took from Beterbiev threw him off.
     
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  3. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    depends on how "we" rated him before the fight. i never threw around the words special, or great, when rating him.
     
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  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    No, we underrated Beterbiev. They're both incredibly skilled, as evidenced by the match itself. Gvozdyk was right there in the fight, which was tit for tat up to the 8th round.
     
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  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    This. Gvozdyk fought very well. (and hell, in the first half looked well on his way to winning)
     
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  6. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He boxed very well, but he was up against a guy who was a tank who wasn't discouraged in any way by Gvozdyks (respectable by previous evidence) power.
     
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  7. DanielDimov

    DanielDimov Jabbing all night Full Member

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    Gvozdyk was ahead on two of the cards what's so overrated about being stopped by probably the hardest puncher right now?
     
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  8. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    He fights like he's working the heavy bag. Lot of telegraphed shots. Threw from out of range and moved awkwardly in the wheelhouse. Very predictable. Plain boxing by numbers. Decent boxer but was definitely overrated.
     
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  9. vnyc

    vnyc Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    have to agree with dumbo I mean dino this time
     
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  10. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Here we go again!
     
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  11. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    Nope, you are just not used to watching two top guys fight. Too many of today’s matches are far from 50-50. Two prime guys fought and one won. It used to happen all the time in boxing. No gimmicks or BS, just boxing. I give both guys lots of credit for taking this fight. No A side, no catchweight nonsense, no fight between a faded older guy and golden boy, no questionable decision, just a championship bout between two prime guys.

    I hope we see more of these because it was refreshing.
     
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  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    No Beterbiev is just freakishly strong and heavy-handed, a much smarter and more skilled fighter than many have credited him with being, and he has a hell of an engine on him and he can keep up that pressure whilst maintaining his strength, power and intensity from first bell to last and in short is a nightmare to deal with. Gvozdyk is very a very talented fighter himself but Artur was just too strong and relentless for him.

    It was a very high level skilful and exciting affair and I do feel that Gvozdyk could've fought better. However, trying to keep someone like Beterbiev off of you and rolling right through you has got to be an incredibly draining and discouraging experience both mentally and physically and most fighters would've been overwhelmed a lot sooner than the teak-tough Gvozdyk was. Those right hands Beterbiev was sinking in downstairs sounded like bombs from a HW and a big punching one at that. Brutally powerful shots.
     
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  13. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Gvozdyk is a top 10 p4p talent. He did really get exposed for a lack of an inside game though. He never had to use it before since he had such good footwork, but Beterbiev really just hunted him down and just chopped him down like a tree.
     
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  14. Antigoon

    Antigoon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This post is important! Its what we're missing most these days. Jackman is 100% correct here
     
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  15. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This fight was similar to his fight vs Adonis Stevenson with the only difference being that Stevenson she failed him.. Had he not gassed he would have put him away in the 10th just like Beterbiev did.. Gvozdyk has elite skills but has trouble with physically stronger guys.. I think he beats Kovalev(this age) and Bivol but Beterbiev would always hold a mental edge over him that with the right trainer he can overcome it..

    Does anyone know why he’s not trained by Lomachenko’s father like Usyk??
     
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