Did we see a side of vic that robert's been talking about

You are looking too much into it Freddy, Margarito did the same thing before his fight with Pac about the same time out from the fight to.
and if anybody should not have Tony should not have as that was likely his last chance well he now has another shot at Cotto but still Ortiz is young enough that even if this is a mistake and it cost him he can still bounce back.

Reality is if you watched the show Danny didnt really want him to take that one day off, But did say he has looked good in sparring and in the gym and has been putting in hard work.

 

excuse the language gentlemen

'With all due respect' - Translation - '**** you Im gonna do it anyway'.

 

Look at it this way the kid has faced 33 all have hit the floor in terms of experience he has fought

Campbell
Peterson
Diaz
Berto
Harris
Maussa

This is not exactly a bad record for the kid Sure he has the Maidana quittage but come on I look at that the way I do Cottos quitting over Margarito or the way Vazquez quit against Marquez

Why is that? Those fighters didnt really quit they had it beaten out of them and thats the truth.....
Mayweathers in activity may **** around and haunt him in this fight becuase weather we like to admit it or not Floyd has never faced anything like this kid to date

When is the last time he fought a young welter weight like this?

Whens the last time he faced a welter who put every man he faced on the deck?

there are some variables here and I know the Majority write off this kid fine so be it but I like this kids chances here

 

do you nor think this could be hype for the fight.

24/7 goes out of its way to try and make you think a fights going to be closer than it is.

Remember the hatton fight Mayweather was getting xrays to his ravaged body!(think he had leprecy) and hatton was fighting fit.

bookies cashed in after that one.

 

A fighter knows his body and mental state BETTER than ANYONE, so if Vic feels it's NEEDED, it's NEEDED. He's the one that has to fight, NOT Danny. Look how often a trainer tells a guy to do something in a fight and the guy does something else? Hell, how many times does a trainer give the WRONG advice? It's like a trainer sayin', "this guy can't hurt you" and the fighter's the one FEELING the pain? I think as fine a trainer as he IS, Robert's a little jealous of Vic, and so is Rios. Danny WISHES he still had Vic and he was making a 2.5m dollar payday. Rios said, vic should thank Floyd everyday, for giving him his biggest payday, DUH, who WOULDN'T? Wouldn't HE? What a DUMB thing to say, Rios. Believe me, I've trained fighters for years and if a guy tells his coach, he's hurt or something and can't train and his coach takes that, 'I don't care, we have to train', how much respect is he gonna' have for his coach?

 

robert seems like he has a huge ego... That didnt go over to well with vicious victor! :nono

 

Didn't Robert also say that when he had Vic he was one of the hardest workers in his gym ..Who cares about all this as long as he gives it one hell of an effort !

 

I think your reading too much into to what Robert says in response to negative issues. Robert also said Ortiz trains like an animal. So...

 

Danny never told him no. He even went with him. In fact, Danny embraced the idea of taking a day off from hard work. It doesn't matter if Victor came up with the idea.

 

Very true, I was going to make that point also. What leads me to believe Vic knows his body pretty well is that he was able to make 140 without really killikng himself. His performance probably suffered but he was not hurting himself.

 

i dont know brotha , there was this swoll older man in the gym one time so i aked him his secrets , he says the main thing is to listen to your body , i didnt know what he meant at the time but recently ive begun to understand you body warns you against over training , with the way your muscles , mood and energy level are affected , i think victor knows his body and is doing good not to overtrain , thats a smart move

 

Well Victor is literally a tree, bro.......everyone knows you can't talk sense into a tree. Besides, Hearns took a day off to go fishing preparing for Hagler and he turned out alright......oh wait.