Did Wilder duck Wlad?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Dance84, Jul 30, 2020.

  1. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2015
    Messages:
    7,140
    Likes Received:
    5,029
    Wlad didn't fight Wilder when he was world champion either so what's the difference?
     
    Dance84 likes this.
  2. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2014
    Messages:
    5,191
    Likes Received:
    1,716
    - "Wilder is just a baby"
     
  3. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2014
    Messages:
    8,362
    Likes Received:
    7,176
    This.
     
    Dance84 likes this.
  4. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2012
    Messages:
    29,548
    Likes Received:
    14,150
    Of course he ducked him. He ducked Povetkin ffs.
     
    George Crowcroft and BCS8 like this.
  5. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2014
    Messages:
    31,354
    Likes Received:
    42,178
    I think there is something to this. Whatever his faults, Wilder is no coward personally, and was delusional enough to think he could beat Godzilla.

    His team kept the fraud train rolling by only letting him fight guys with no talent whatsoever, and they probably told him he was fighting the best.
     
    kriszhao, BCS8 and Wizbit1013 like this.
  6. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2014
    Messages:
    31,354
    Likes Received:
    42,178
    Again a physically denuded, 50% Fury. We saw what happened when he fought the real Fury.
     
  7. RB1702

    RB1702 Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2020
    Messages:
    1,851
    Likes Received:
    2,094
    Yes absolutely. His team probably more so. They knew Wlad would have ended that hype train before it began. Wilder wouldn’t have been the same mentally either after Wlad sparked him effortlessly. From just their sparring session Wilder was kept away from punchers after that so no chance he would have recovered from a real beat down from Dr Steelhammer.
     
    kriszhao, UnleashtheFURY and BCS8 like this.
  8. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2017
    Messages:
    8,066
    Likes Received:
    5,454

    50% or not whatever he got caught hes been down by lesser punchers najic and Cunningham.
    It was a good shot stop taking away that credit with agenda you have built up.
     
  9. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2013
    Messages:
    36,270
    Likes Received:
    33,092
    Yes, Well maybe, it was his team that seemed to duck Wladimir, so maybe not Wilder himself.

    Shirley Winkle admitted as much when asked about Wladmir, Winkle called Wilder a "prospect" at 33-0 and WBC champion and said "he won't be rushed".

    So, it was Winkle really, he basically ruled it out, I actually think Wilder given the choice would have fancied himself to beat Wladimir, i think the vast majority of fighters, especially world champions believe they can beat anybody.



    Forget us boxing fans who would have loved to have seen it.. It turned out to be the right decision by Winkle in fairness, from a business point of view, Wilder made a string of defences, ended up fighting Fury twice and made a lot of money.

    So Winkle did his job in many ways, a job he was suppose to do, make Wilder and himself money with a whole lot of defences and a couple of big money fights.
     
    BCS8 and Wizbit1013 like this.
  10. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2014
    Messages:
    31,354
    Likes Received:
    42,178
    There is no agenda in telling the truth. He wasn't quite ready for that first Wilder fight, and the entire rest of the world knows it now. Most of them knew it at the time.

    He was not a physically mature fighter for Cunningham and Pajkick, and those were flash knockdowns. You understand that you are talking about seven and nine years ago, don't you? When he was 24 and 22? He was closer to the guy who got a dodgy win over McDermott than the man he is now. Sorry, fighters mature psyiclly and mentally.
     
  11. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2017
    Messages:
    8,066
    Likes Received:
    5,454

    " not physically mature " for those

    For wilder knocking him down " 50% fury"

    For Otto " fury didn't take him seriously"

    Nothing but excuses for fury.


    It is an agenda
     
  12. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2018
    Messages:
    4,320
    Likes Received:
    5,078
    Wilder didn't want to fight green Wlad. He waited for Wlad to enter prime at 39-41.
     
    Dance84 likes this.
  13. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2009
    Messages:
    58,280
    Likes Received:
    13,358
    Why it is we always gotta run down the AMERICAN fighter on this site...?
     
  14. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2014
    Messages:
    31,354
    Likes Received:
    42,178
    The ****? You just went full ******. He is an undefeated two-time champion with wins over Wlad and Wilder. HE DOESN'T NEED EXCUSES. He shits all over you, believe me.

    Again, telling the truth is not an agenda. He was not a physically mature fighter when he was 22 and 24. That is fact. He didn't take time to build himself up after losing 150 pounds. That is not hard to understand at all, even for a guy like you. You are pretending.

    As for Wallin, I like Wallin. I think he has a future and put up a good fight. I like Cunningham, a lot, too, by the way, and think he should have been a bigger deal if not for some dodgy decisions.

    For the record, I am also a Joshua fan. Backing Fury a bit, but let the better man win.
     
  15. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2017
    Messages:
    8,066
    Likes Received:
    5,454

    Credit to fury for for his accomplishments still does not erase his mistakes as a fighter

    When a fighter looks bad the excuses come out