Did Wilder duck Wlad?

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  1. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Wlad didn't fight Wilder when he was world champion either so what's the difference?
     
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  2. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 banned Full Member

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  3. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This.
     
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  4. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Of course he ducked him. He ducked Povetkin ffs.
     
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  5. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think there is something to this. Whatever his faults, Wilder is no coward personally, and was delusional enough to think he could beat Godzilla.

    His team kept the fraud train rolling by only letting him fight guys with no talent whatsoever, and they probably told him he was fighting the best.
     
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  6. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Again a physically denuded, 50% Fury. We saw what happened when he fought the real Fury.
     
  7. RB1702

    RB1702 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes absolutely. His team probably more so. They knew Wlad would have ended that hype train before it began. Wilder wouldn’t have been the same mentally either after Wlad sparked him effortlessly. From just their sparring session Wilder was kept away from punchers after that so no chance he would have recovered from a real beat down from Dr Steelhammer.
     
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  8. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    50% or not whatever he got caught hes been down by lesser punchers najic and Cunningham.
    It was a good shot stop taking away that credit with agenda you have built up.
     
  9. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes, Well maybe, it was his team that seemed to duck Wladimir, so maybe not Wilder himself.

    Shirley Winkle admitted as much when asked about Wladmir, Winkle called Wilder a "prospect" at 33-0 and WBC champion and said "he won't be rushed".

    So, it was Winkle really, he basically ruled it out, I actually think Wilder given the choice would have fancied himself to beat Wladimir, i think the vast majority of fighters, especially world champions believe they can beat anybody.



    Forget us boxing fans who would have loved to have seen it.. It turned out to be the right decision by Winkle in fairness, from a business point of view, Wilder made a string of defences, ended up fighting Fury twice and made a lot of money.

    So Winkle did his job in many ways, a job he was suppose to do, make Wilder and himself money with a whole lot of defences and a couple of big money fights.
     
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  10. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There is no agenda in telling the truth. He wasn't quite ready for that first Wilder fight, and the entire rest of the world knows it now. Most of them knew it at the time.

    He was not a physically mature fighter for Cunningham and Pajkick, and those were flash knockdowns. You understand that you are talking about seven and nine years ago, don't you? When he was 24 and 22? He was closer to the guy who got a dodgy win over McDermott than the man he is now. Sorry, fighters mature psyiclly and mentally.
     
  11. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    " not physically mature " for those

    For wilder knocking him down " 50% fury"

    For Otto " fury didn't take him seriously"

    Nothing but excuses for fury.


    It is an agenda
     
  12. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder didn't want to fight green Wlad. He waited for Wlad to enter prime at 39-41.
     
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  13. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Why it is we always gotta run down the AMERICAN fighter on this site...?
     
  14. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The ****? You just went full ******. He is an undefeated two-time champion with wins over Wlad and Wilder. HE DOESN'T NEED EXCUSES. He shits all over you, believe me.

    Again, telling the truth is not an agenda. He was not a physically mature fighter when he was 22 and 24. That is fact. He didn't take time to build himself up after losing 150 pounds. That is not hard to understand at all, even for a guy like you. You are pretending.

    As for Wallin, I like Wallin. I think he has a future and put up a good fight. I like Cunningham, a lot, too, by the way, and think he should have been a bigger deal if not for some dodgy decisions.

    For the record, I am also a Joshua fan. Backing Fury a bit, but let the better man win.
     
  15. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Credit to fury for for his accomplishments still does not erase his mistakes as a fighter

    When a fighter looks bad the excuses come out